Apr 24 2004, 10:40 am
In response to digitalmouse
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Maz
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4gig, aka 2 ^ 32.
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Define what you mean by memory. Stop circling around the issue, and just tell us straight what you actually mean, will you? =/
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Ahh, there seems to be a communication problem here...
In common computing terms, memory = RAM... Hard drive space is not called "memory"... Of course, disk space stores information, which is basically the definition of the word "memory" (stored information), so it technically fits, but it is not the word used when speaking of hard drives... It belongs to RAM... So as the others have pointed out, you most certainly do not have 160 gigs of "memory"... You most likely have a 160 gig hard drive; "storage"... And anyways, 160 gigs of memory/RAM would be a HUGE waste... No average home PC user could possibly be operating a system that needed that much memory...lol High end systems, like industrial servers, supercomputers, etc. might require that level of power, but nothing that can fit on a desktop would ever need it... And even further, memory isn't exactly cheap... Even if you could find a 1 gig stick for $100 (which would have to be an incredible deal), getting 159 more of them would cost much more than most of us here could ever hope to spend on computer equipment (or even most average cars for that matter...lol) And one last thing, most current motherboards have 3 memory slots... You can't cram 160 gigs of memory into only three slots, especially since the strongest RAM sticks I've seen are only 1 gig apiece... But anyways, yes, you're free to call these things by whatever name you want, but be advised that unless you use the names everyone else uses, no one's ever going to understand what you're talking about (as evidenced here)... | |
And? I can call it what i want, i don't need to be perfectly correct. But if marklar call a marklar a marklar and a marklar marklar, then marklars will have marklars trying to figure out marklar marklar marklar. | |
Lets hope he actually reads a post :)
But yeah, I think they have 4 gig sticks now if I'm not mistaken. | |
But yeah, I think they have 4 gig sticks now if I'm not mistaken. Yeah but 32 bit processors(ie the common ones at the moment) only have 2^32 bits off addressing space which happens to be 4GBs. This is the max for all memory mapped devices put together. | |
The funny thing is, everyone on other forums, or even messengers, understood me, just not all of you.
I don't understand why we all have to be technically correct when speaking, i mean, can't you just remove the difference's and get what i mean? ^^; I really just go by whatever: Memory = storage RAM = RAM I don't see the sense in RAM getting two different definitions. | |
Thats the most confusing non-sense i've ever read. -.- Which is why we have seperate words for things so you dont run into ambiguity problems. | |
in fact calling hard drive space memory is technically correct & also commonly used.
Secondary memory (or secondary storage) = Harddrive primary memory (or primary storage) = RAM | |
You don't need a Floppy Drive. You can use a CD as a boot disc also, just go to your bios boot menu and choose the CD Rom drive.
If not you can go to this site. http://www.turboled.com and get a floppy drive for like 1 dollar. | |
Yes, i know that, i was just trying to go along with his question rather then branch off to a different option.
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And I definitely agree with you...
I myself knew what you meant from simple inference (no one could realistically have 160 gigs of RAM, but one can definitely have 160 gigs of HD space... plus, as I mentioned, calling disk space "memory" is technically correct...) So for me, it really wasn't an issue... In fact, I understood you on the first read of your first post... My mind automatically made the "translation"... However, that ability is rather rare, it would seem... Most people just can't (or won't) do it... So, I feel that it becomes necessary for proper communication (and the prevention of misunderstandings) to use the most universal terminology possible (and to be rather overly wordy, as most have noticed by reading my posts...just to make sure that the point gets across in some way or another)... Basically, if nearly everyone calls RAM "memory", then it's much safer to just go along with them and use that word... In fact, my point is being proven right in front of our eyes... None of this discussion would have ever arisen if not for that simple miscommunication (and the lack of ability of others to see past it)... Not necessarily that this discussion is "bad"...but it isn't really constructive, and is getting rather off-topic from the thread... But while this little bit is rather harmless, this sort of thing (in more important cases) can wind up in really heated debate, sometimes causing a lot of damage... So to avoid any of that, it's just best to try to keep all misunderstandings from happening... And one way to do this is to simply conform... And in closing, I'd like to mention that I'm fully aware of the apparent hypocricy of me saying the above things... After all, I obviously don't use proper punctuation most of the time, and my misuse of the ellipse can definitely change the meaning of my words in the reader's mind... One strictly following the rules, would interpret each ellipse as a missing thought... Something left out... And that meaning is only intended in a very few cases where I use them... I do feel that it really shouldn't be too difficult for anyone to figure things out for themselves (as I am able to), but like I said, this ability is apparently rather rare, and some people fall through the cracks... Oh well... | |
And Southpark teaches another important lesson. Really, who can argue that Southpark is a bad thing now?
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Actually, it's not a matter of ablility or desire to translate. The whole point of a language is to prevent people from having to translate everything. Ignoring context errors such as this only encourages sloth in our spoken and written language, which in turn degrades the ability of said language to get information across.
For example: I be jammin', yo! Here we have at least two problems, especially to people new to the language. First, what's the direct congegative of "to be" for I? That's right, am. I am jammin', yo! Next, what the hell is "yo"? A shortening of you, if I am not mistaken. Were I to be learning this language, I would be very confused. Not only are the verb congegations subject to change, odd slang words are common place. As it stands, our language is difficult enough for a non-native speaker, and things like this only make it worse. I can, and often do, translate context errors and mispellings. This does not mean that I ignore them. If the error is bad enough or numerous enough I will bring it to attention so that the person in error can learn from their mistakes. The real issue here, though, is obstinance and stubborness. The repeated "well, it works for me so why should I change it" does nothing but show stubborness. It would be just as simple to say "oops, your right. I use those terms interchangably so often mix them up". You acknowledge the help that is being given and explain your point of view. | |