really? strange i had monkey wrench and black...hehe but the other 3 where dead on <.< damnd influential Television and paper!! *pools out gas and torches both* ooo pretty colors...
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If ur goe-wing 2 maek the lan-guaj as foe-net-ik as pos-i-bl, u end up with sum-thing liek this. Wich luks crap. All-thoe if u kant bee purr-sway-ded 2 not yoos e-lip-ses orl the tiem then I am shor u woent bee purr-sway-ded that an-ee red-uk-shon in un-der-stand-er-bil-it-ee is bad.
So you can keep your version of "English", thanks. The rest of us will be over here, still managing to understand each other. =P | |
If it ever evolved into that, then it'd be fine with me...
The simple fact is that language is nothing but an arbitrary fabrication... We have settled into a working pattern, but it is not the only working pattern, and it is far from set in stone... There are no natural rules that say our languages need to be the way they are... They can change at our whims, or even cease to exist if we choose... Of course, these changes need to be collective to work, but it is entirely possible, and in the cases we're discussing, it obviously has happened numerous times in just our relatively short history... So if, as a whole, we end up shifting into the type of spelling you're making fun of, then there's no problem in that... The language we use is a tool and nothing more... And tools are obvious candidates for alterations to better fit our needs and desires... Of course, that sort of extreme end is likely to never come, but even so, no reason not to drop some of the garbage we still retain in our language... Heck, a lot of it is just a waste... | |
SuperSaiyanGokuX wrote:
Heck, a lot of it is just a waste... Yeah, like two extra periods at the end of each sentence... =P | |
Exactly!
But at least I'm not forcing my wasteful "rules" upon everyone else... But for things like outdated or superfluous spellings, they originated by someone who had the power to pick any working set of letters, but chose to stick in extra ones just for the heck of it... I mean, what in the world does that U in "colour" get you (unless yu intend to pronounce it as "cuh-lure")? Or worse, what about old English stuff like "shoppe" (which, thankfully, we came to our senses about long ago, and only use it to look "olde fashioned")? Entirely useless, but they decided that it'd be a good idea to force them upon the rest of us, anyways... And even if there were once good reasons for spellings like "shoppe" and "colour", those reasons obviously no longer apply... So why shouldn't we get rid of/mend them? We've already done it in many cases ("shoppe" for example), so why not continue? As for my ellipses, I admit that the same question I just posed applies to that as well, but oh well, I never claimed to not be a hypocrite...lol And even so, I again say that the crucial difference is that I'm not forcing them on anyone else (aside from those that feel so gosh darn put out by having to read them)... If the rules were in my hands, I wouldn't make every sentence have to end in an ellipse, just because I have some attachment to doing so... | |
I'm sure there are historical reasons for those spellings. No idea what they are, though; I'm not a linguist. =)
How about this: I let you keep using your personal ellipses, and you let us Aussies keep using our collective spelling. =P | |
I wouldn't make every sentence have to end in an ellipse, just because I have some attachment to doing so... And just why do you have such an attachment to doing so? | |
I honestly can't tell you... I've tried to explain myself quite a few times (on this forum, no less), but the best I can do is "I just like it"... I've been thinking about it some more recently, and I've come up with some other possible reasons (which I'll get to in a moment)
I started doing it in my early days as a regular internet user (not really that long ago, I didn't use the net very much up until '99... at least not for entertainment purposes... my parents have always been behind technologically, and our first PC in the house wasn't bought until sometime in the mid-to-late 90s, and was considered to be for "work" only... so my internet access then was limited to school research and such... it wasn't until after I graduated high school in '99 that I began using the net for personal entertainment) My first major use was in Yahoo! Games chatrooms, and it arose from that... One of my guesses is because it helps to seperate "lol" from the ends of my sentences better than: "This is a joke. lol Here's another sentence. lol" As opposed to: "This is a joke...lol Here's is another sentence...lol" It seems to tie the "lol" into the sentence it belongs to, and at the same time, pushes it away from it to give some space (since the "lol" isn't really a word in the sentence itself, but rather a sentiment attached to the sentence)... Why I use "lol" all the time is a different story, which I won't get into here, but is also probably due to my chatroom "roots"... Anyways, I began doing it then, and I've been doing it ever since... Another factor might be my urge for white space between sentences... I was always taught in school that two spaces come between sentences... That was the rule they always told us for typing reports and such... But for whatever reason, computers remove the second space, and only allow one... So to force more space between the end of one sentence, and the beginning of another (like I had always been taught in school), I landed upon using the ellipse... It's easier than typing the code for a non-breaking space after every sentence (plus, when I first started doing it, I had no idea that there WAS a special code to add another non-removable space) Heck, even so, I still automatically type two spaces between sentences (you can probably still see them if you hit "Reply With Quote")... But I know that one of them will be removed, so the ellipse needs to be there to hold the sentences apart...lol I just can't retrain myself to not type that extra space... It was the rule at one point, for goodness's sake, for my entire life as a student, so it's so stuck in my mind that I'll probably never stop doing that... The ellipse is darn near that point for me... I probably couldn't stop if I tried by this point...lol (I can type normally, but it takes conscious effort now, whereas the ellipses just happen naturally, and automatically, like how you can walk without really consciously thinking about it...lol) So oh well, my answer to anyone who has a problem with it is simply "Sorry, but get over it, because it really isn't a big deal, no matter how much whining you do, and I see no reason to change..." lol | |
That's not exactly what I meant by that...
What I mean is that it is possible to walk without thinking about each step... Yes, you have to consciously tell your body to walk, and you usually need a destination in mind, but along the way, your body can work on auto-pilot... It's an action you perform so often, that its movements are programmed very solidly into your brain, and even your muscles and nerves... So the action becomes nearly automatic... So, in essence, you often walk without conscious effort... It just happens (after you initiate it by telling your body to walk)... | |
Kujila wrote:
I had green + hammer :D xD omg me too seriously... [EDIT]: Oh ya i forgot to pu this in teh first post =P http://www.bored.com has links to all kinds of stuff like this =) | |
Definition #2.