Well, if you look at the URL, it is a ".com" domain name. You have to pay for .com domain names. The last time I checked, dead people couldn't pay for .com domain names.
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The last time I checked dead people couldn't pay their taxes.
I guess I was wrong. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134973,00.html | |
Wow, that is ridiculous. Nobody knew he was dead...for two years? And they found him holding a newspaper from the year 2002? Man...that's sick.
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Nice story.
I love the whois info on the domain Frank Stevens 1313 Mockingbird Lane Beverly Hills, CA 90210 US | |
Excellent story... It actually managed to raise my heart rate a few times... Which is really saying a lot...
Anyways, I too, am certain that it is fake, but I don't think Lexy's proof is really all that solid... In my experience in building web pages, especially ones that involve a lot of pages that are similar to each other (everything laid out the same, only some content changed in the middle), it becomes much simpler to just write up the first one, then copy it for all of the rest, going through, and editing each one to make the needed content changes... For instance, on a DB fansite with episode summaries, I'd write up one of them, then when I had another to put up, I'd copy the first page, and replace the text... In the case where it has a "Previous", "Next" or whatever thing going on at the bottom, this too would be copied, and when I change the content text, I'd also edit this link to point to whatever it's supposed to lead to... Even if that page didn't yet exist (because I knew it would at some point, and I didn't feel like coming back to this page again to edit the link... Might as well get it done with now... So, I myself have done the very same thing you say one would never do... "he wouldn't have put a "Next" link at the bottom of the page before he had a next page for it to go to, not just for the hell of it" But as I outlined above, this is entirely plausible, and has been done before (at least in one case)... Basically, I'm saying that he didn't add that link explicitly (well, I'm sure he did, seeing as that is the "punchline" here, but bear with me), but instead, that the Next link was most likely just a part of his "template", and was brought over implicitly... It points to the next page in the numbered sequence of pages simply because he intended for a page to be there eventually, and wanted to get the link change out of the way... But like I said above, I'm not saying this story is true, but just disputing that this "proof" is proof at all... | |
So, I myself have done the very same thing you say one would never do... Forgive me if I don't find my logic challenged. I would still feel perfectly comfortable saying, "You don't just go around hitting yourself in the head with a clawhammer when you're bored," or "You don't use ellipses as if they were the new vowel", regardless of your ability to provide a personal counter example. All you've done is prove that you're beyond lazy as a page designer. I mean, seriously... if you don't want to go back and edit the link, put a fricking placeholder page in. Two words: "Coming soon!" You can use it again and again... you just replace it with the actual content when you're ready. Look at the previous pages. They're all clearly hand made HTML. He didn't even use the same format for all the "next" links (although the last several did seem to be the same)... furthermore, I would -hope- you would only do that when you were about to add the next page anyway, not when you were heading off somewhere and weren't sure exactly when you'd be back or when you'd be up to posting an update. There is no such thing as "positive proof" (as Einstein said, no amount of experiments could prove him right, but a single one could prove him wrong), but it's extremely unlikely that the hypothetical fictionalized spelunking diarist would have hand-crafted a link pointing to a page that didn't exist yet. | |
I don't normally see much point in this sort of discussion for the following reasons:
1) Nothing can actually completely distinguish a factual account from a fictional. If you have an actual encounter with a ghost, you will never, ever be able to prove it, and your story will sound exactly like anybody else's. 2) Even if it's not fictional, that doesn't mean it's true... what you think you see, what you think you remember, what you think you experienced, it's all suspect. No amount of "if it happened to you, you'd just know it!" will undo this. But... since it's almost Halloween and the thread is here, here's a true story. I'm telling it in a basic matter of fact way, and will allow anybody to draw their conclusions. A few years back, I spent five nights in the house of a friend. I slept in an unused bedroom. The bedroom actually belonged to a child who lived there, and although he kept his toys and clothes there and played in it during the day, he refused to sleep in it. Nobody questioned him too much on this, as the family had gone through some upheaval and he was apt to be emotionally fragile. On the first night, I was awakened at around one in the morning by a small weight plopping down on the bed by my feet. I was only somewhat surprised... the family had a rather quiet but affectionate dog, so I just drifted back off to sleep. On the second night, the same thing happened at about the same time. On the third night, the same thing happened... and as I was drifting back off to sleep, I heard the rather distinctive click-click-click of the family dog's untrimmed nails bouncing off the hardwoord floors in the hall. Shocked into total wakefulness, I sat up and looked at the foot of the bed. There was a visible depression where the covers and mattress were pushed down by the weight, but nothing there could be seen or felt. Moving my feet under the covers, I could feel the depression and the weight sliding over it. I turned off the lights, and the depression was gone. I turned off the lights, went back to bed... and a few minutes later, plop. The fourth and fifth nights, more of the same. It didn't affect my sleep that much... nothing horrific happened the two nights that I wasn't aware anything unusual had happened and I saw no reason to assume anything would. | |
Seeing scense noone but one person has a true story...or even a fake one..
I pesent.. My Story: I dreamed one night that I was on this alien ship and then they were poking me and testing different things.Then I remember lying in bed but I was awake....I got up and everything...I could'nt sotp shaking nore move at first but then I calmed down....Wierd heh? | |
Okay, this is my story:
This has happened to me a total of two times in my entire life, and I have never been so frightened. It happened to me one time in Boston, on a school trip, in the hotel room around 2:00 A.M., and one time at my home, around the same time. Both times, I was in bed. Well, here it is: I don't know how...nor why this has happened to me....I was just laying bed, wide awake, in Boston, on my school trip. The five friends who I had roomed with were asleep and I had to goto the bathroom. I went to the bathroom, came back to bed, and I was about to fall asleep until this body appeared above me, with no head (from what I can see). He was a dark figure. When he appeared above me, I could hardly breathe. Every ounce of strength in my body was gone, and I mean every ounce possible. I never, ever felt so weak. I couldn't move an inch. I was so frightened. I tried to move, but couldn't. I use all the strength I had in my entire body and couldn't move. I am a pretty big kid and I have never felt so weak. I felt numb....It was weird. I tried to scream for help, but I could not speak. Well, I could speak, but very, very softly and gently. More like whispering, except alittle softer. That was the loudest I could possibly talk so there was no chance of screaming for help. Then I began to pray to God...finally, about 10 seconds later, the figure disappeared. My voice and strength regained back to its natural state. I am not sure if I was dreaming, but, I do not think I was. I know when something like this happens and I wake up, it is obvious I am dreaming when that happens. But, this time was different. My eyes were opened the entire time, I was wide awake. I know for a fact I was not sleeping. About a year later, around the same time, in my bed at home, everyone was sleeping. For some reason, I remembered that day, in Boston. I began thinking about it, asking myself if I really was sleeping, even though I knew I wasn't. For some odd reason, in my head, I asked for it to happen again to see if it were true. No idea why though. Probably didn't think it was real. This time, I was 100% sure I was awake, and then it happened again, the figure, same old feeling. No voice, strength, ETC. I prayed again, he disappeared and everything went back to normal once again. I am scared this is going to happen again tonight, it happens everytime I talk/think about it (Which was that one night) but, I can only hope it doesn't happen again.... | |
Experiences like this one are more common than you might think. It's a disturbing feeling, certainly, but not a supernatural experience in the least. I would wager you drempt the entire thing in a lucid, half-awake state.
You see, when you dream, your brain releases chemicals into the body that causes temporary paralasis, so your sleeping body doesn't act out the events you're experiencing in the dream and hurt yourself. They have done tests on people that inhibited this chemical, and they would get up and sleep-walk, acting out their dreams while still sleeping. Sometimes, your mind awakens but your body remains paralized, as it hadn't had time to fully waken yet. You can think, but movement is almost impossible. The fact that you can recall this nightmare at will only shows the control you have over your dreams. You probably have lucid dreams often, no? ~X | |
Actually, to be honest, I have had three dreams where I knew I was dreaming inside of it. So when you asked if I often have control over my dreams, well, you were correct. It is quite fun when I know I am dreaming inside of my dream. Very, very interesting. You can walk around in your own world, wish for things (and yes, they come true) and do whatever you want. It's like living in a dream world. If I wanted to wake myself up I'd blink very, very hard and everything would appear white, then I would awake. This happened to me at an early age though, so I couldn't wish for things that like, eh- I think you know. =P
You mentioned that thing about the chemical reactions paralyzing you so you could not act out your dreams. Is that why babies have cribs (I know it's so they do not fall out of the bed)? Like for example, since they are small, weak both pysically and mentally do their chemical reactions not work as well, therefore causing them to fall out of their bed while asleep? | |
No, I believe they possess this ability in the womb, but I could be wrong. I don't recall ever witnessing or hearing of infant sleep-walking. If they didn't already have this checmical in the womb or shortly after brith, it would be a very comon occurence for babies to injur themselves in their sleep, crib or no.
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Eh- I didn't mean sleepwalking cause eh, babies can't really walk (I am talking about a few month old babies. Sorry if I confused you). They fall out of their beds and all, that's why they have cribs. When you get older, you don't fall out of your bed. I just thought babies chemical reaction was weaker, so they need a crib to prevent them from falling out of a bed.
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Naw, everyone tosses and turns. The paralization only happens in the deepest states of REM sleep, when you dream. Old men fall out of their beds, I've done it, many people do. Most develop a sense of the edge and roll away from it subconciously. The fear of heights in ingrained in all of us to some extent. They also proved this with kittens and babies in lab tests. (no they didn't drop babies of ledges or put them up high, they used optical illusions to give the perception of depth on a 2 dimensional surface.)
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--Goz