In response to Zlegend2
Zlegend2 wrote:
Oh ya, Im sorry. I guess the terrorist forgot to crash a plane into a big building in New York while Clinton was in office. My mistake.

I don't understand.
You're pro-Bush, no?

And I see a connection with a point above...

But still, you're logic is screwed.


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Monkey-lover!
In response to AZA
AZA wrote:
Zlegend2 wrote:
Bush won! Im very happy about this. Im safe for another 4 years.

EDIT: Bush won! Im very pissed about this. Im likely to be bommed by idiots in turbans for another 4 years.

I rest my case.

EDIT: Kerry didn't win! Im very happy about this. Im likely not to be bommed by idiots in turbans for another 4 years.

I rest my case.
In response to SilkWizard
SilkWizard wrote:
Chalk up one for the extremist conspiracy theories.

I don't know. The facts in the matter speak for themselves, I believe. This site isn't my idea of proof, not by a long shot, but a little snooping around will bring a lot of disturbing things to light. I'm just offering it to those who have no clue as to what went down, so they can look into the facts stated here themselves. Check it out, you might be surprised what you can learn.

http://pages.infinit.net/fmgoyeau/911c01.html

~X
My point is that Clinton's little problems never measured in any way to the extreme of Bush's problems. Bush used our money wisely and I have no regrets. Oh please, go ahead and keep all our money in our treasurey and keep it there just for looking. This was an emergancy when the terrorist struck and we used the money in a good way.
In response to Zlegend2
Zlegend2 wrote:
I feel so sorry for your little mind then.

Zlegend2, please cool it with the personal insults. It's fine to debate the issues and express your opinions maturely, but the above is not acceptable here. Thanks.
In response to Crispy
Crispy wrote:
Zlegend2 wrote:
If it was Kerey in office when 9-11 struck, the US would be in ruins

Bull. No matter who the president was, the US doesn't fall into ruins that easily. It's still the world's most powerful nation, remember.

Sorry to tell you this, but you've completely swallowed the Republican party's propaganda. I hope that one day you'll learn to think for yourself. (I'm being sincere here, not sarcastic.)

and panic.

Most of the US population is panicking anyway. Bush is FURTHERING the panic. Remember all that orange/red/etc. alert rubbish? Maybe US spies were detecting more extreme anti-U.S. sentiment (which is hardly surprising, with all the people Bush has been bombing lately), but the reality is that those "terror alerts" were stirring up panic (whether intentionally or not), and the more fearful a population is, the more likely they are to vote the current government back in. This was demonstrated in Australia in the election before last (we just had one too); Our Unfortunately-Prime-Minister, John Howard, stirred up fear by provoking racist anti-refugee sentiments, using falsified photos*. It only lasted about a week, but by the time it was revealed as a complete hoax it was too late; Johnny had been re-elected. And by this election, everyone had forgotten that he had brazenly LIED; and if they remembered, then they didn't care (this was borne out by a poll; I don't remember the exact figures, but more than 50% of people surveyed believed that John Howard had lied, but didn't care).

*The photos were genuine, but they showed refugees jumping off their rapidly-sinking boat to escape being drowned, not evil heartless "illegal" immigrants drowning their children in order to lighten the load as "Honest John" claimed.

Please don't tell me Kerey would be "safe". He's rich, arrogant, and just a corrupted as any would-be president could be.

Everything you just said in those two sentences applies equally, if not more so, to Bush.

Kerry isn't the perfect U.S. president. But he's at least the lesser of two evils. I mean, Bush is a friggin' evangelical fundamentalist! A religious nutjob is the last person you want running the U.S.

Im sorry but Im not going to read the whole message because I can already reply. There is no such thing as Republican propaganda in the U.S. You might of made a typo. The democrats will do ANYTHING to make Bush look evil. Im sorry you've been fooled.
In response to Mike H
Please tell me what was insulting about that and I will.

Please do.
In response to Zlegend2
I don't think that is what he meant (I mean, spending a trillion dollars for a war is literally impossible). I think he meant 9/11. When the World Trade Center was hit, we lost 1.3 trillion dollars.
In response to Shades
God made man to love-love a woman, not man love man. We don't make our population bigger by sticking eachother in the fatcakes. I myself oppose gay marriage. It's wrong and it should never be done.
In response to GokuDBZ3128
Nothing is impossible my friend, an acception to this is Kerry being a better president then Bush ,Kerry is not a good choice.
In response to Zlegend2
Zlegend2 wrote:
Please tell me what was insulting about that and I will.

Please do.

You said, "I feel so sorry for your little mind . . ." That's a personal insult. You're free to disagree with anyone, but please don't insult people here.

Thanks.
In response to Zlegend2
Zlegend2 wrote:
I feel so sorry for your little mind then.

The feeling is mutual.

Kerry would have upped our deathtole here in America and in Iraq,

I don't think so. Had Gore won fairly, Kerry wouldn't even be an option. 9-11 would still be a television show, and terrorism would be something you hear about happening over in Ireland and the middle east.

offense is the best defense.

So, if I precieve you to be a threat, I am right in killing you? I don't know, I think we call that cold-blooded murder.

We took out MOST of what could of been fuel for another attack and I mean physical fuel.

Bush is the fuel. The terrorists we've killed are pawns.

What in your little mind thinks Kerry could do better?

Just stop right there. Don't insult me. I never said anything about Kerry. He's not even a factor in this.

The American people have also spoken and told you and every one of you wrong-minded-democrats that Bush is superior in every way presidentially to Kerry.

You label me and insult me. Bush is not a better choice for president than Kerry. Bush is the worst choice for president. He should have been impeached, but his propoganda machine turned the focus to Iraq before our heads stopped spining.

Forget that little girl who'd panic if we'd were to be attacked. He's not president now and will never get a chance. He doesn't deserve it just like all these other big-headed democratic candidates.

You're just an uninformed child with no idea the webs that are woven all over this globe. The connections people have to each other are so blatent, so obvious, I wonder how people can even think Bush was not involved with 9-11.

Stop insulting people you don't know, and research this man you obviously love so much. Find out what he has done, who he knows and the influences he has. Then tell me who deserves what.

~X
In response to Xooxer
Ignorance. Thats how I can sum up your intelligence on this.
In response to Mike H
Thats not an insult. Get real.

I'm just sorry about how all these people are wrong in there opinions and can't accept Bush is superior to Kerry.
In response to Hedgemistress
Kerry supporters are like Yankee fans, all they do is complain....

Who are you to tell what Bush supporters think? You are obviously not one, so you do not have a say in what we think. We do not think making plans is a sign of weakness. Actually, I think it is ridiculous we went to war without making a plan. I agree that was a stupid move on Bush, but, I am still a Bush supporter. And yes, we did capture Saddam Hussein. Do you have any idea how big of an accomplishment that is? He is not just a "big scary man". He is the guy who can raise our oil so high up we can hardly afford it (sort of like it is now). He can destory America by doing that. He can send more terrorists our way, he can design chemical weapons and fire it at us.

Capturing Saddam has made the U.S. so much safer. Or should I say the world? He has killed more people then "Bush has" as you say. Way more people. That would have never ended. His family would keep growing and growing, each one having kids, taking over Iraq, making everyones life miserable and killing them one by one. We have prevented that from happening. Sure, blood is spilled now, but, isn't that what happens in a war? You people are acting as if you were expecting nobody to die in this war but the terrorists. Wars happen, people die. That is how you strengthen a country, by wars. If we never got into wars our country would be nothing. We probably wouldn't even exist. I support what Bush is doing, but to an extent. Sure, he has made some stupid moves, but who hasn't? We were going to goto war with the Middle East sooner or later. The U.S. and the Middle East hate each other, we have freedom and they do not. Our hatred has been growing for the past 50 years and finally it has been unleashed. This war was going to happen, whether you like it or not. Everyone saw it coming, so don't act like you were blinded by it.
In response to Zlegend2
You know what, Mike H. asked you nicely twice to stop insulting me. I asked you twice in my post as well.

According to your own words, I need to take an offensive here to prevent you from attacking me further. You want to give me your home address, or should I just hire a trained killer?

You are being ignorant of the facts. Explain to me how George W. Bush is friends with the bin Laden family, yet can't locate Osama. Explain to me why Dick Cheney was playing war games in NY on 9-11, effectivly dismantling our defenses there. Explain to me how we could let Osama into an AMERICAN HOSPITOL and TREAT HIM when he is the most wanted man in the world? Explain to me why the eldest brother of Osama invested tons of money into George W. Bushe's iol company, effectively saving it from ruin. Explain to me why the president was never in office until after the attacks. Explain to me why we went after Saddam when Ossama took responsibilty for the attacks.

Please, I'd like to be less ignorant.

~X
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~Kujila
In response to Zlegend2
Being gay is a natural part of any species. Humans aren't the only ones with gays. Marriage is a vow two people take to show they love each other. Refusing to allow gay people the right to these vows will not stop them from loving each other. You can't kill love, you can only breed hatred. Gay people are here to stay, and the more you try to hold them back, the more they will fight to be heard, seen and accepted. Until you are willing to accept that gay people are people with rights, the better off the world will be.

~X
In response to Mike H
Then it's a good thing we got Bush in there to abandon the diplomacy plan that was not working, and for many years they tried I might add.
In response to Zlegend2
The insulter waives his right to judge the insult as insulting or not. The insulted are the only ones who can tell you if they were insulted by the insult. Therefore, I say I find it insulting, as did Mike H. You don't get to say how we feel, so you can just "Get real" yourself.

~X
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