In response to Kunark
Yes. It doesn't support the microsoft crap that is used to install most spyware.
In response to Kunark
Kunark wrote:
I don't get why all the oldbies on the forum have been so sour the past month or two. It's definately noticable.

Because the forums need it. Garthor's been banned from them, so somebody has to do it. :P
In response to Jon88
Jon88 wrote:
Kunark wrote:
I don't get why all the oldbies on the forum have been so sour the past month or two. It's definately noticable.

Because the forums need it. Garthor's been banned from them, so somebody has to do it. :P

Seriously, if enough people vote for Garthor to get unbanned, he should. =/
In response to Hell Ramen
Hell Ramen wrote:
Jon88 wrote:
Kunark wrote:
I don't get why all the oldbies on the forum have been so sour the past month or two. It's definately noticable.

Because the forums need it. Garthor's been banned from them, so somebody has to do it. :P

Seriously, if enough people vote for Garthor to get unbanned, he should. =/

The hub moderation isn't a democracy. Garthor disobeyed the rules time and again before finally being banned.
In response to Hell Ramen
Hell Ramen wrote:
Seriously, if enough people vote for Garthor to get unbanned, he should. =/

How many of them are legally registered voters?
Ten things that make Firefox better then IE:
1:  Extensions.
2:  Tabbed Browsing.
3:  No spyware.
4:  It's updated a lot.  If an exploit comes out, it will be fixed quickly.
5:  Themes.
6:  No popups.
7:  Live bookmarks.
8:  The expandable search bar.
9:  The Download Manager.
10: It's not made by Microsoft.

I challenge any IE fans to make a list about IE.
In response to OneFishDown
OneFishDown wrote:
Smoko wrote:
And I personally find java script to be annoying, if I cant do it with CSS or PHP then its not workth doing IMO

i couldn't live without JS. yes, it can be used to make some very tacky and annoying things, but it can also make webpages a lot more functional. JS is handy for changing content on a page without having to reload the whole page.

Im preety sure this could be done whith meta refresh if you were using an IFrame
In response to Repiv
1: Extensions.
2:  Tabbed Browsing.
3:  No spyware.
4:  It's updated a lot.  If an exploit comes out, it will be fixed quickly.
5:  Themes.
6:  No popups.
7:  Live bookmarks.
8:  The expandable search bar.
9:  The Download Manager.
10: It's not made by Microsoft.
11: Open source and multiplatform.
12: Free.
13: The extensions (mainly ad-blocker)
14: Small download
15: Being able to use custom CSS for any site
16: Standerds Compliant

In response to Jon88
Yah. He chose his own fate, it wasn't forced on him.
In response to Jon88
Jon88 wrote:
Hell Ramen wrote:
Jon88 wrote:
Kunark wrote:
I don't get why all the oldbies on the forum have been so sour the past month or two. It's definately noticable.

Because the forums need it. Garthor's been banned from them, so somebody has to do it. :P

Seriously, if enough people vote for Garthor to get unbanned, he should. =/

The hub moderation isn't a democracy. Garthor disobeyed the rules time and again before finally being banned.

Still, if he only bothered like 1/15 of the community, why get rid of him?
In response to Kunark
I always felt that it was resticting me from browsing how I wanted to. FireFox is nice because it can be fixed however you want it. I have a lot of little extras on my browser, but it is still cleaner and more clear than IE ever was for me. FireFox never crashes(ok, so maybie not never, but rarly compaired to IE).

At one time FireFox did have problems with java, but I have not had those in a version or two.

Making a site IE compatable is fine, but making it compatable with only IE is almost a sin of the internet. Frontpage likes to do this, if you create a site in frontpage, it will probably not look good and other browsers. IE likes to not conform in any way to make things easyer, only in ways take make it harder. 'I have an idea! Lets make a product that uses set standards to allow anyone to install software onto the computer, but make sure everyone has to put an extra effort into allowing people to show what they want though our product.'

Microsoft doesn't seem to understand that the best way to stop a problem is to prevent it from ever happening.

I am not saying that FireFox is godly or anything, I am sure it has its problems, but they are fewer and farer between. Before anything is installed to the browser, you must first agree that the site is safe(by going though the options), then wait 3 seconds before that "Install" button becomes highlighted. There isnt much way around this, It is a set security sytem that works very well.
In response to Repiv
I'm no IE fan, but I DO have to run IE every once in a while for things a Mozilla browser won't run. I've not been able to accept a few HTTPS sites through Mozilla, where IE would. There were a few framed websites that didn't load at ALL in Mozilla that IE would load. Likewise there are a limited number of occasions where I have to use Mozilla because IE won't work. I don't use FireFox. FireFox to me is Netscape with a new skin and an "IE" feel. Yes, they both have their advantages. The main one I see with FireFox is that it has no load time. One thing thats annoying is when FireFox crashes(on that rare occasion) it says Netscape.exe has caused an error and must close. Argg.
In response to Repiv
Not entirely correct, in fact many websites now have Mozilla spyware. Wanna know whats worse? You haven't any idea you even GOT one of the darn things unless you pay attention to the "Pop-Ups Blocked" icon. Its true that IE is the main target for Spyware. Its also true that more IE loopholes have been found. However, there is no proof that the "security" in IE is any less than the "security" in Mozilla. The only difference is one is attacked regularly and one is not. Thusly one requires better defense than the other, not that the one not getting attacked HAS defenses better than the other. Who here is going to say Mozilla would still be fullproof if it had 80+% of the internet's users?
In response to Repiv
You can get an IE wrapper program called MyIE2 that does all that, but I agree Firefox is better, but IE still comes in handy.
In response to Nadrew
Nadrew wrote:
You can get an IE wrapper program called MyIE2 that does all that, but I agree Firefox is better, but IE still comes in handy.

Gah, MyIE2 is still based off the crappy IE core, its just got a pop-p blocker and some other stuff
In response to Smoko
Smoko wrote:
OneFishDown wrote:
the first page looked the same in both.

i've found that IE has MUCH better support for javascript. i've also had trouble with style settings in other browsers when they work just fine in IE.

IE is a real webbrowser that has many advantages over other browsers. other browsers probably have their advantages too, i just haven't seen any.

It might just be my version of IE (windows 2000 defult), but the text is larger than it should be.

View > Text Size > Whatever

Thats how i change the text size O.o
In response to Game sabre
Ctrl+Scroll Up/Down is better :P

But it loads the text the wrong size to what its ment to
One of IE's most recent updates included a pop up blocker.

Thats all I have to say except that IE hasnt had a real udate since 1997

So... if this is true, then the visionaries at Microsoft offered a browser with a pop up blocker way back in 1997, before pop ups were even a problem. What visionaries! You've convinced me to stay with IE. :P
In response to Hedgemistress
I use both. Firefox is pretty.
In response to Smoko
Smoko wrote:
 16: Standerds Compliant


IE doesn't even properly support CSS 1!

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