In response to Kaga-Kami
And the concept of meat bathed in steroids, and handfed both the ground up bits of their own kind and below-grade feed, fried in the stewed grease of vegetables and fats of other animals isn't moderately disgusting?

You can't be afraid of germs. I fear flesh eating viruses, not spit on my burger. If I found out someone spit on my burger, I'd throw the burger at them, and spit on them. If I didn't find out, I wouldn't know, and would be quite satisfied having just eaten a burger.

Fast food is awful, just eat it in moderation, and don't become totally sedentary. I don't eat fast food in the winter because I don't move too much in the winter.
In response to Ter13
Ter13 wrote:
And the concept of meat bathed in steroids, and handfed both the ground up bits of their own kind and below-grade feed, fried in the stewed grease of vegetables and fats of other animals isn't moderately disgusting?

You can't be afraid of germs. I fear flesh eating viruses, not spit on my burger. If I found out someone spit on my burger, I'd throw the burger at them, and spit on them. If I didn't find out, I wouldn't know, and would be quite satisfied having just eaten a burger.

Fast food is awful, just eat it in moderation, and don't become totally sedentary. I don't eat fast food in the winter because I don't move too much in the winter.

Meningitis lives in all our throats (or something) and just doesn't manifest itself into the full blown virus until it's out of the throat (I sound vague, but my Science teacher/Head of house teacher was telling me).

Basically, avoid people's spit.

You could get diseases. And lots of nasty things.
In response to Ter13
Yeah, i agree. Fast food is very disgusting. I've thought of not eating any food anyone else has handled at all (Besides my household), you don't know what kind of things go into what you eat anymore.

Specially mcdoogle. Their food is very unhealthy.
Not suprizing, because obiously if you go to McDonald's every day, and Church every Sunday in a year, you will be overweight and unhealthy(even though it's possible to be healthy and overweight). However, if you went to Church every day, and McDonalds every sunday, every sentance you would say would have somthing to do with Jesus.
In response to Merciless Warrior
I'll take neither.
In response to Merciless Warrior
Merciless Warrior wrote:
Not suprizing, because obiously if you go to McDonald's every day, and Church every Sunday in a year, you will be overweight and unhealthy(even though it's possible to be healthy and overweight). However, if you went to Church every day, and McDonalds every sunday, every sentance you would say would have somthing to do with Jesus.

Er, that's not the point.

His point was that a super corporation marketing dangerous lifestyles to the ignorant masses has become all powerful.

And Macdonalds is pretty bad, too.


(da da dush)
In response to Ter13
People seem to confuse ADD as an anti-social problem it seems, when in fact ADD has nothing to do with whether kids act up or not. It's moreso dealing with focus issues, and a lot of times it isn't hyperactivity that is the case, unlike how movies tend to love to display is as something that makes kids really hyper and act really bad. Plus I can't see how you got ADD mixed up with the Church.
I love me some unhealthy substances. I enjoy anything fried, I smoke cigarettes, I drink coffee with my sugar and heavy creme. I can eat a pizza in one sitting without batting an eye. I don't shy away from chocolates, candy, suger-pumped beverages or alchohol. I don't care about saving the rain forests, if Jesus is crying, whether or not my neighbor beats his kids, the state of the Union or what's fashionable. I like taking risks and daring Death to strike me down. I know one day I am going to die. I don't see anything wrong with taking the express lane and having some fun on the way. If you're so uptight about living, you're not having fun doing it and will only grow old with your regrets. Grab the bull by the balls and make sure your friends have a camcorder, because you only get one shot to screw up royally.

~X
In response to Ter13
Ter13 wrote:
I'm not saying it should be banned, or that it should be healthy, just that they don't accurately offer information. McDonalds has been sued, and the government passed bills preventing the sueing of fast food places.

The first cases were obviously overturnable, but McDonalds does intend to get children hooked on their food, does intend to market their product to people that eat unhealthy amounts of it, and doesn't provide accurate information as to the harm of their product.

It's called marketing, every company intends to get a specific audience hooked onto their product. It's nothing new, and it doesn't make them evil. Thats just saying that you don't like the company since they know what general audience to advertise to, and they do it well. Plus, it doesn't really even give information as to how harmful their product is, so you shouldn't be worrying about the accuracy, because if they went around saying their product was healthty then they would actually be in trouble.


Every time I buy a pack of cigarettes, I see a surgeon general's warning --but a hamburger, even though it is bathed in more addictive and carcinogenous substances than a cigarette, not a single warning anywhere. Plus, McDonalds even tried to put out an ad campaign deliberately targeting dieters. I know people that honestly think diet soda helps you lose weight. And do you know why this is? Because commercials play on technicalities and deal in misrepresentation of their product.

Yet again, they are just advertising and doing it to the best they can. If you don't want to be mislead then look into it, otherwise it's not like they are holding a gun to your head and forcing you to eat there. They just targeted the dieting audience for more money, its another thing with audiences, its not illegal or immoral. The only thing bad about what they did is that they worked on sliding by certain rules, and that is just smart buisness practice on their side. [sarcasm]However I'm glad we have people like you to inform us that we aren't going to lose weight by eating their salads.[/sarcasm]


I'm fairly certain there is a connection between fast food and stupidity. Now, I've known my fair share of fat people, and most of them weren't self-inflicted fat. One of the guys I went to highschool with, his dad was addicted to McDonalds, and got him hooked on eating at an early age. He was of course, at fault, and the blame lay on him, but habits from childhood are very much harder to break.

I don't know anybody who is fat on purpouse, maybe if they are trying to get fat for a competition of some sort, but otherwise most people aren't fat on purpouse, so I fail to see what you are trying to say. Besides, even if fast food is addictive, as you said the person is still at fault. What I fail to see is in what case is someone stupid for being fat, because if your friend's dad isn't an idiot for being fat in your mind, even though it goes against what you said, then who is? Saying that he is fat just because it is a habit from childhood is just an exscuse to take some blame off of himself.

I smoke cigarettes, and I know they are bad for me. I drink mountain dew, and I know it is bad for me, I eat non-organic foods, and know it is bad for me. And I won't touch McDonald's.

So you smoke cigarettes, what makes you better than people who indulge in fast food? You aren't getting fat, but you are doing something just as dangerous. Plus, who says non-organic foods are bad, and also its not like all organic foods are even good. Just face it, we all do things that we enjoy, good or bad, I enjoy tobacco at times but at least I'm not trying to make myself feel better about it by looking down on people who eat too much fast food.

This business preys on ignorance, gluttony, and the young. Hooray for America!

Last time I checked, thats not illegal.
In response to Xooxer
Do you play on the railroad tracks too, Xooxer?
In response to Elation
When I used to live near them, yes. One of our favorite games was "What can we lay on the tracks to derail the next train?" game. It was fun watching the rocks be totally obliterated under the wheels, not to mention the hours spent searching for the pennies we'd taped to the tracks. Ah, those were the days.

~X
In response to Kusanagi
Kusanagi, clever business practice can be just as evil as anything else.

Just take a look at the spyware *phenomenon*.
In response to Elation
You missed the point of that, or rather I used the wrong terminology. It's not illegal, but I figured people who watch movies like Supersize Me and instantly think they know it all prefer terms like good and evil for dealing with buisness practices.
In response to Ter13
If there were a government collapse in ten years, I garuntee almost all of the United states population would die. People in the united states are becoming helpless.

Nah. Assuming that the government somehow just folded up shop, and there wasn't some larger catastrophic impetus behind it such as plague or nuclear war, almost all of the United States population would get by just fine. Within days we'd regroup and have all the key bases covered -- military, police, judiciary -- and we'd be relieved to be rid of the rest of it.
In response to Gughunter
Gughunter wrote:
If there were a government collapse in ten years, I garuntee almost all of the United states population would die. People in the united states are becoming helpless.

Nah. Assuming that the government somehow just folded up shop, and there wasn't some larger catastrophic impetus behind it such as plague or nuclear war, almost all of the United States population would get by just fine. Within days we'd regroup and have all the key bases covered -- military, police, judiciary -- and we'd be relieved to be rid of the rest of it.

The French would invade.
I swear.

Or something.

Anyway, the moment the commies catch on that the US is without government, they'd stage revolutions in every country across the world.
The only think that stops them is the Eagle-eyed watch of the US of A.

Damn you Western pi- ...I mean, Long live Sta-, I mean...

Shut up!
In response to Ter13
Ter13 wrote:
Sure, but chemical addiction is, as I have recently found out, a scary thing. I thought for a long time, I wasn't affected by any addiction --nicotene proved me very wrong.

Is it right to target children with a product thatwill kill them?

No it is not right, but there is a difference between food and smoking cigarettes. You don't need to smoke cigarettes, you need to eat food, and so since there is a variety of food out there that buisnesses grow on you can't really outlaw one company for being a part of that. Perhaps if laws were changed for food regulations you could close down McDonalds or change its buisness ways, but until then they are still not doing anything that is any different from most other companies. If you really want to see them gone then you gotta stop working with the people who just want to make McDonalds look bad, and work with the people who want to actually promote the production of products which are at least slightly healthy.

Then again, this is capitalism, and as you said, it is their fault for buying it. But when it comes right down to it, and you said it yourself, it is delicious. Most of these people honestly think that their like of food that is bad for them isn't as unhealthy as smoking, but in fact, eating-related deaths are beginning to match the numbers of lung cancer deaths.

I believe that has something to do with this whole new mentality of nobody taking responsibility for their actions. When you tell a person it isn't their fault for being unhealthy, when it is, then they don't feel responsible and believe there is nothing they can do about it. So they continue with their unhealthy lifestyle. Also, it does not matter if the food taste good to somebody, the fact still remains, it is their fault for eating there, and the more they do the more unhealthy they will become. If people would just understand the meaning of responsibility then things would probably change.

And again, what do I care, I'm healthy, I'm in good shape, and I don't smoke that much, so what do I have to worry about? So what if my fellow man is as wide as three of my grandpa's fellow men? So what if you can listen closely in a fast food resturaunt and literally hear a person's heart screaming? So what if my nation is riddiculed around the earth for our obesity? So what if other nations are just waiting on us to die of heart disease so they can roll in and take over?

If there were a government collapse in ten years, I garuntee almost all of the United states population would die. People in the united states are becoming helpless.

People in the United States are becoming helpless because of the mindset created by movies like these. Stuff like saying the US will collapse for being unhealthy is simply a scare tactic. If people like you actually cared about it then you wouldn't complain about people becoming unhealthy and you wouldn't push the blame off of them. You would be more concentrated on helping them overcome their "addiction" instead of helping them feel better about themselves. You can feel good about yourself all you want, doesn't mean your going to be able to make it past 40 years of age.
In response to Elation
The French would invade.
I swear.

The funny thing is that the Department of Defense probably has at least a dozen different plans for responding to a French invasion of the U.S. Who says bureaucracy stifles creativity?


Anyway, the moment the commies catch on that the US is without government, they'd stage revolutions in every country across the world.

But they'd be competing with the fundamentalist Islamic revolutionaries. The best bet for America: stay up in the tree until there's nothing left on the ground but a big puddle of butter.
In response to Gughunter
Gughunter wrote:
But they'd be competing with the fundamentalist Islamic revolutionaries. The best bet for America: stay up in the tree until there's nothing left on the ground but a big puddle of butter.

Or oil.
In response to Elation
Or oil.

No, no, why climb up a tree when we Americans are perfectly content to trade blood for oil? Heck, any hippie can tell you that!

But then again, butter is mostly oil, so we'll trade blood for that too. Also, we make a blood-oil-and-vinegar salad dressing that's to die for.

The real secret, though, is that our main reason for trading blood for oil is so that we can turn to the UN and trade that oil for food! We're not as think as you dumb we are.
In response to Gughunter
Gughunter wrote:
Or oil.

No, no, why climb up a tree when we Americans are perfectly content to trade blood for oil? Heck, any hippie can tell you that!

But then again, butter is mostly oil, so we'll trade blood for that too. Also, we make a blood-oil-and-vinegar salad dressing that's to die for.

The real secret, though, is that our main reason for trading blood for oil is so that we can turn to the UN and trade that oil for food! We're not as think as you dumb we are.

UNATCO are going to bust your asses though, I've seen it on my computer screen.
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