I was recently reading the local newspaper, and stumbled upon this unique question.
The question was from a women.
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I was waiting in a very long line at the bathroom. I had been waiting for over 10 minutes and awaited my turn. The only open stall was... The handicapped stall. I stepped slowly towards it getting ready to enter, and a lady pushes through and she is handicapped. She said that because she was handicapped she got the handicapped stall because it was made just for handicapped people.
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I believe that handicapped or not you should have to wait in line. The handicapped stall is not just for you its made to allow handicapped people bathroom use with ease. I believe that what the handicaped person did was wrong. This question is really a question of your personality, and the situation.
Whats your opinon?
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 Jul 22 2005, 5:21 pm
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Well, the handicapped stalls in bathrooms are just accessible to handicapped people, the parking spaces are no different, but they are reserved for handicapped people because they often can not walk as far, or it is largely more difficult for them.
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Scoobert wrote:
Well, the handicapped stalls in bathrooms are just accessible to handicapped people, the parking spaces are no different, but they are reserved for handicapped people because they often can not walk as far, or it is largely more difficult for them. For one thing, you cant get a ticket for using a handicaped stall. | |
Sorry, I was actualy trying to say that I thought that it wasn't wrong to use a handicapped stall. I guess it didn't come off that way. Anywho, the extra stalls normaly take up 2 stall places, so those handicapped people can wait thier turn. They may not be able to walk, but they can wait in line.
An exeption would be retarted people, sometimes I think they do get to go ahead, but really, that is just being nice. And they normally don't need the handicapped stall. | |
Well, if theres only one stall and you let the retarded person in... your probably going to be waiting for a long long time.
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How so? I am guessing you don't know many retarded people. My aunt is retarded, and lives in a home for retarded people. They are acualy quite functionable in the real world. And most of them know how to use the bathroom, stop making assumption.
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Generally with short term stuff the rule is you have to vacate at the request of a handicapped person. Although they can't tell you to get off and get out of the toilet, they're given priority over everyone else when it comes to lines to use the toilet.
It's a bit stupid considering most of the handicapped people who aren't in wheel chairs have no more trouble using an average toilet. Although a lot would take more time and benifit a lot more from being able to cut straight to the front of the line. Naturally with things like parking it's not possible to simply ask the person to move, so it has to be a disabled access only thing. | |
I was visiting the middle school in my area, and we have a mentaly retarded child in the district that runs down the hall yelling "I AM STUPENDOUS!" sorry for stereotyping them I was refering to the person I encountered.
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DarkView wrote:
Generally with short term stuff the rule is you have to vacate at the request of a handicapped person. Although they can't tell you to get off and get out of the toilet, they're given priority over everyone else when it comes to lines to use the toilet. Why would they get priority? they can wait like the rest of us. Your saying I could carry a wheelchair to the movie theater, when I have to pee, I whell to the bathroom and get to the front of the line? Who says they have priority? | |
Strawgate wrote:
Who says they have priority? Who ever moderates this sort of stuff. I think it's the owner of the establishments responsibility, but they're forced to comply with a set of standards. One of the key things people don't realise is a lot of disabled people can't drive, so they're forced to rely on public transport which means sticking to a specific timetable. So do a lot of other people, but 'normal' people can usually be more flexible. You can't really ask a person in a wheelchair to go wander around and kill twenty minutes while they wait for a train. The chances are they wont be able to go faster to make up for lost time. You can cross a road outside of the crossing, someone in a wheel chair requires a ramp to get up/down the gutter. You can run for a train when you hear it coming. The last key issue (which only really applies to the toilet) is a lot of disabled people don't have as good bladder control. While you can hold it in for five minutes while you wait in line they'll probably have a harder time. | |
Well, if there are four stalls in a bathroom, and only one is handicapped accessible, and the choice is, either give them priority for that stall or not... even if you do give them priority, they still have LESS access to the bathroom and LESS chance of getting in ahead of you!
How do I figure this? There are four stalls that you can use. If you and a handicapped person show up in the restroom line right next to each other when all the stalls are taken, no matter which of you is "naturally" first, you have the better odds of getting in first. If you don't give them priority and you're actually ahead, you can use whichever stall opens up first. 100% you get in ahead. If you do give them priority OR they're already ahead (regardless of priority), you still have a 75% chance of going in ahead, because if one of the other three stalls opens up first, they can't use it. LIFE gave you priority over the handicapped person. Giving the handicapped person a break to get to the handicapped stall isn't giving them special rights... it's making a marginal concession to the fact that, in a busy restroom, they will otherwise be waiting longer than anybody else. (And note that the odds are even more skewed in your favor as a man... odds are if you're using a public restroom, you're going to be in and out without having to wait for a full-fledged stall. That aside, how often do you even encounter a line in a non-single-occupancy restroom?) | |
Actualy, theaters are very common "Waiting room only" in the bathrooms. They normaly have about 6-8 urinals, but most people go to the bathroom when the movie lets out, so there is waiting.
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i think you are confusing retarded with disabled- a gross misconception.
get a ticket for using a handicapped toilet? time to move out of the country me-thinks. a parking space is one thing- they are generally widers for wheelchair access and closer to store entrances for those with difficulty walking. a toilet offers only improved access for wheelchairs generally and is usually no closer to the entrance than the others. unless the person was in a wheelchair (which requires a bit more time to get out of), then the person you had the experience with should have to wait like all the rest- you have a bladder too right? as far as people walking down the side of the road, it is considered courtesy to shift as far over as you can, but you are not expected to step off into the mud or un-safe ground just because a car wants to pass at high speed. they have brakes right? | |
digitalmouse wrote:
as far as people walking down the side of the road, it is considered courtesy to shift as far over as you can, but you are not expected to step off into the mud or un-safe ground just because a car wants to pass at high speed. they have brakes right? If that was sbout my story, we wernt on the road. We were on a big sidewalk, and the guy was on one of them motorized scooters. | |
Flame Sage wrote:
Wait.. you ran over the guy in the scooter? No, he beebed his horn we didnt hear it, then he got mad and went beside us. Told us off, and left. There was plenty of room for him to pass, and hell we were walking with my Nan. | |
I get tired of people on scooters and mopeds all the time. Your's might not be a case like the norm, but very often around here they pull out onto the 55mph road, no tag, no license. They go 25-35 on this 55mph road.
They often get far enough into the road that you cannot pass them without getting too close to them, or into the other lane. Then, they look shocked as you pass them, like don't expect it. It gets on my nerves. Chances are, this guy who was rude to you was just angry at all the other inconsiderate people out there, and you where there to vent on. | |
Come on man, i think they went through enough just let them use the bathroom.
EDIT:A "Disabled" Student in my highschool cut in front of me and my friend in the lunch line and we dont even know him(Actually i remember him blaming our table for throwing something at him when we didnt do anything and we all got in trouble for nothing). I Didnt say anything because it would only make me wait a while and id rather not give him anymore trouble then he already has with people probably making fun of him and all that. | |
If they are made for easyer accses, and then everyone starts using them because they are free. What will the real handycaped people do?
I have seen to many people abuse thier handycapedness. For example. Me, My mum, my nan and brother + sister were walking down the street. Out of no where this guy pulls over beside us going on about how we should of moved out of his way when he beebed his horn.
The way I seen it was, he should of slowed down. Or gone around.