Aug 17 2005, 6:12 pm
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Leftley
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Level 21! Only 700k xps to go!
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Nothing wrong with referring to the reference. Much of it is just memorization, which is not even half of programming. Most of programming has to do with use of the basic standard procs found in almost all programming languages (Example: If, While, return, and a good few others). Understanding how to use these right is way more important than learning BYOND specific procs.
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Popisfizzy wrote:
I try not to use usr in procs. Most of the time I don't, but I had one time where src refused to work. If src isn't the tool for the job in a proc, you need to send the proc an argument that gives it more information. Remember, usr itself is only an argument; it's one that DM defines and sends for you without your involvement. Because of that lack of involvement, usr is not to be trusted in procs. When src won't do, send an argument. Lummox JR | |
I'm not sure if I should say anything, I think I might get burnt. :P. I know that the 'battle library' I've got sitting on the hub is really bad. I should probably just take it down. The random map generator is okay. There isn't much else that's decent.
Ah well. Does Lummox have anything to say on my skill? He appears to be the ultimate arbiter in these matters. | |
Jp wrote:
Ah well. Does Lummox have anything to say on my skill? He appears to be the ultimate arbiter in these matters. Watch out---he has a keyboard and he knows how to type! Apparently, he seems pretty skilled in this craft also. Oh, and that thing you mentioned, too. Hiead | |
I'm not one for labeling myself. I never became a programmer with the intentions on moving beyond BYOND. I'm quite satisfied staying put for the time being. As well as that, I am confident that I can accomplish pretty much any feasiible task set before me with the proper motivation. With that said, I'm such a gu-uh... newbie. ;)
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Lummox JR wrote:
Popisfizzy wrote: There is a proper use for usr. If there wasn't, it wouldn't be an included argument. It's just most "internewbiates" and lesser often don't know, or sometimes forget it's exact function. | |
Koshigia wrote:
I'm not one for labeling myself. I never became a programmer with the intentions on moving beyond BYOND. Nothing beyond BYOND? Way to stay true. It just makes me feel bad when I think that I came to learn BYOND when I was wanting a "free video game maker." Yeah....that was quite a few years ago. Although I did learn BYOND with every intention of moving forward(when I read in the guide how it was loosely based on C++, a language I had never heard of, you know I was all over that), I must admit that BYOND introduced me to the realities of programming. It's time-consuming, and most of the time you write programs for nobody but yourself(many a game I've made over the years, none were finished due to my graphical incapability). But it is fun. And even more enjoyable to write code and see that it runs smoothly. Then to find some guru to pick out anything that is less-than-efficient. I really don't know where I'm going with this....it's like 3:16 AM so I'm just gonna say: Hiead | |
i came to byond on 2001 but i had a different key, but i was like on and off. Then i decided to come to byond 90% of my online time. i became a good leaner of byond coding. learned alot by making alot of mistakes. i became what i am right now by learning out of my mistake.
my game now running with out any runningtime error. My host is happy and i get like 1 running time error every 2 days. I think i will fix it :P Beginner-------Intermediate-<font size=3>B</font>-------Advanced thats where i am at the moment. I am not willing to learn every thing but i will learn it from my mistakes. I know i dont ask for help but i some how figure it out my self not that mean i am a beginner :P | |
Jp wrote:
Runningtime error? I laugh at you! Intermediate? I continue to laugh at you! laugh all you want and good luck with flame festival. | |
No. You were not. Lack of grammar, 'runningtime' errors, you are still a newbie. It shouldn't really be stigmatic, but neh.
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Jp wrote:
No. You were not. Lack of grammar, 'runningtime' errors, you are still a newbie. It shouldn't really be stigmatic, but neh. I am sorry Mr Jp i cant spell, I am not shame of it. you can keep flaming and put your reputation down as much you want mr JP. thank you | |
You should be ashamed of it, assuming English is your first language. Being functionally illiterate is not a joke. And nobody who can program decently in BYOND refers to 'runningtime' errors.
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Jp wrote:
You should be ashamed of it, assuming English is your first language. Being functionally illiterate is not a joke. And nobody who can program decently in BYOND refers to 'runningtime' errors. since i dont get much runtime error i wouldn't know how to type it in here. runtime error = runningtime error. who ever understands it thats all it matters. :) **gets some popcorn and sits down and waits for more flame** | |
Koshigia wrote:
There is a proper use for usr. If there wasn't, it wouldn't be an included argument. It's just most "internewbiates" and lesser often don't know, or sometimes forget it's exact function. I never implied there were no proper uses for usr. However in procs, it should be avoided like the Plague. It should only truly be trusted in procs that are as good as verbs, such as atom/Click(). Lummox JR | |
Gozenko wrote:
Beginner-------Intermediate-<font size=3>B</font>-------Advanced [link] Failure to spot usr abuse, which was the central problem in the first part of the post, means you don't qualify for intermediate. Also an intermediate programmer should have been able to figure out the problem in the second half, or at least glean something from it. The second part of that post appears to simply be bad savefile mechanics. Lummox JR | |