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Today I have recieved the most stubborn virus I have ever tried to put down.

It has several memory processes running simultaneously on startup, and even when I tell it to kill all of them, at least one always comes back. Then that one keeps coming back whenever I put it down, occasionally changing names. It's as if it respawns itself in memory magically from nowhere.

Now, here's the most annoying part. The thing starts up even in safe mode. I can't put it down even then. And it blocks me from using msconfig to put it down on the next restart. It tells me I don't have access when I try to tell it to not run on startup, that I should try again using as administrator, even though I am on as administrator.

I have checked the registry as well, the part that tells programs to come on with startup. I deleted everything from there I did not recognise.

What else can I do?

All help that leeds to better computer health is extremely appreciated.

[edit]
The solution cannot include utilities downloaded off the internet, unfortunately, since it won't give me access. The virus crashes IE when it starts up. I'm posting this on another computer, so unless anything I can use is small enough to fit on a disk... (my CD/DVD drive on the infected computer does not work, for reasons I explained in a past thread that you can look up)
Do you know the name of the virus? that would be a big help. also what anti-virus did you use?
In response to Xzar
Xzar wrote:
Do you know the name of the virus? that would be a big help.

As I said, it keeps making programs and memory processes with random names, but when I shut down, it floods me with "MDMUDITE.EXE failed to initialize because Windows is shutting down". That part doesn't change, so I'd guess that would be the only such solid description of it I can give you.

Xzar wrote:
also what anti-virus did you use?

Well, it is a new computer. I did not yet put any anti-virus stuff on it. Yeah, terrible of me, I know. I was going to get to it, but I just hadn't yet. =/

I should have thought about that before I went on a large 'net adventure today.
In response to Loduwijk
Your infected computer can take floppy disks, right? You could try downloading an antivirus program on your working computer, making a rescue disk, and using that on your infected computer. I don't know how much stuff they manage to pack onto the disk, but it might help.

Edit: Okay, it seems AVG needs five floppy disks. It should fit most of its virus definitions on there, then. =P
In response to Crispy
WHY DID YOU DELETE MY POST?
NORTAN WOULD HAVE WORKED!
In response to Kasumi Tomonari
Hm..... You say IE won't work, but will firefox? Try putting it on a floppy or something.
In response to Kasumi Tomonari
Actually, Norton (note the spelling!) wouldn't have worked. If you read his post, you'll notice that his CD drive doesn't work, and Norton requires a working CD drive. Plus Norton costs money and is (in my opinion) crap; AVG is free,doesn't hog your system's resources, and works just as well or better.

That's not why the post was deleted, though. Please don't post in ALL CAPS (it's considered rather obnoxious), and please don't insult other users. Thanks.
In response to Crispy
Hmm A (grim) solution would be to back up all of your files, and start off fresh.

=/
But you're not the type to be conqured by such a virus?
In response to Crispy
Where can I get AVG? Sorry to sound naive, but my extensive knowledge of computers is mostly limited to the actual programming of them. I don't know much about this sort of thing.

I will try that. The sites I was going to seemed a bit out of date, so the bug shouldn't be anything new and should be found by such a thing.
In response to Loduwijk
http://google.com
Brings up..

AVG Anti Virus: HOME
The complex anti-virus protection for your computer.
www.grisoft.com/ - 15k - Aug 26, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages
Not sure if it can help you but i used Hijack This and got rid of all my spyware/adware/viruses .
try... Ending process Explorer.exe then closing the virus processes. Then after that try to open msconfig with control alt delete new task.
In response to Loduwijk
In response to Loduwijk
You need an anti-virus if you are going to remove this :P.
In response to Crispy
AVG rescue disk creation process tells me that the rescue disk is intended only for use with the computer it was created with.

I don't have any other options that I know of, and it just says that it isn't intended for other computers, not that it will not work on them; so I might as well give it a try anyway. I don't think I have anything to lose.

In case it doesn't work, any more ideas?
In response to Flame Sage
It was only IE that didn't work at first, but now it cannot contact the internet at all.
In response to Loduwijk
Loduwijk wrote:
It was only IE that didn't work at first, but now it cannot contact the internet at all.

It's sounding pretty hopeless. You may have to try and back up any files you can. Which obviously won't be that many considering your floppy drive is the only external storage drive that's working for you.. format your main drive and reinstall your operating system. If you can't get an Anti-virus utility onto your computer, I guess that's the only thing you can do.

~Sinyc.
Maybe you can find and run a copy of HijackThis and find someone who is able to pick through it to find any clues about the problem? While it wasn't for a virus, doing so helped my computer once (it got so messed up that it could crash from opening the bookmarks dropdown section) and I didn't see this recommended yet.
I ran into a problem like this while working on a client's computer a week ago. It was putting spyware on thier computer at an unstoppable rate. Removing it just made it come back, and there where program crashes left and right. What I ended up doing, is installing AVG (They had norton,crap!). AVG instantly caught the virus and removed it, I ran a scan, but had to go because I had been battling the virus all night, and it was late. I hear from my client, that AVG found another copy of it, it was deleted, and I am going back for a checkup in a few days.

So to answer your question, try to get a copy of AVG on your computer. Best way to do it is a CD-R(The virus can't write itself to the CD).

[edit] someone mentioned that your CD Drive doesn't work, try a jump drive, just make sure it is clean before putting it back into another computer. People claim that floppys can spread viruses, so if that is possible, so could jumpdrives, but I have never had that problem.
I bought a new flash memory drive and have downloaded AVG. I was about to install AVG on the infected computer when I remembered that I won't be able to update its virus definitions normally since it does not have access to the internet.

Does anyone know how I can download a file of virus definitions onto the flash drive? I am assuming it should be able to be done since the updater asks you if you want to update from the internet or from a disk.

Once that is done, I should be able to put AVG on the infected computer, update it and zap the worm, assuming it has not done too much damage already. That last phrase is what I'm concerned about, as many things on the computer no longer work.

So, anyone know how to put the definitions on disk?
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