A boy from Holland, 14 years old, got his Runescape account hacked by a friend and suicides after that. He already had real-life troubles and he didn't see the point in living anymore.
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 Mar 1 2006, 11:21 pm (Edited on Mar 2 2006, 11:08 am)
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Joe, phulease. He's FOURTEEN and he thinks that RS was the only thing he lived for? If so, that kid should've gone to a court or something to sue his parents. Don't say you think this 'normal'.
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it's actually quite normal. As outrageous as it sounds, suicide doesn't actually relate to any particular activity such as playing RS. Instead, most people kill themselves because they're in a lot of pain and find life unenjoyable to them so they suicide to escape it all. Some people even find it acceptable to suicide if say, you have your legs and arms cut off and you're feeling phantom pains 24/7 and can't live a normal life.
The game probably wasn't all that threw him over the edge... but it did add on top of his pain, which pushed it over a little 14 year olds pain threshold (the point to which he could handle the pain) to where he saw suicide as a viable option. There's no judging here... and not like it matters anyway, the kids dead. Nothing you can do about it now... and trying to make it socially unacceptable isn't going to change much. Pretty pointless topic and arguement. | |
To the kid, the game was probably all he had. His real life must of been really bad. RS was probably all he had to keep himself from it, it was probably the ONLY thing that made him happy.
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I don't think intelligence really comes into play here. Very intelligent, popular and successful people can still encounter depression and other mental illnesses.
I think you're really dumbing down the story for the sake of a cheap laugh. You said it was his friend that did it. Perhaps this had nothing to do with his Runescape account, but instead it was about the fact that his friend betrayed him. I know if I was depressed and I found out that my 'friends' were willing to do something like that to me it wouldn't exactly put me in the mood to throw a parade. | |
You can't really blame his parents without even knowing what the situation was like - You really can't say anything about it other than 'Damn'. Not without going on facts you have no clue whether are true or not.
Could've been he had [expletive deleted] bad luck all his life. Could've been he lived in a bad neighborhood. Could've been he got involved with the wrong people. Could've been he commited suicide and RS was simply the thing to push him off the edge. Could've been that he, like most teenagers, experience emotional highs and lows at an extreme rate of change and things simply kept getting worse. Could've been anything really - I've read about people wanting a monster in a game slain as their last living wish (EverQuest - Kerafyrm. The company refused to do it), people killing eachother for in-game item theft (Korea or China, don't recall - Lineage 2 if I recall) and similar. The biggest misconception of all brought into this is that its 'just' a game. Your mind defines what is and isn't important to you. Its only just a game if the kid happened to believe that. | |
Mysame wrote:
A boy from Holland, 14 years old, got his Runescape account hacked by a friend and suicides after that. He already had real-life troubles and he didn't see the point in living anymore. How can one be do UTTERLY dumb to suicide for a game? Okay, real-life trouble, but how can a GAME be the last drop? Perhaps it wasn't the game? But his friend who did something-not-nice to him? I wonder what kind of parents he had, then. The fact that it went this far makes me think the parents barely did anything against his trouble, I could be wrong though. O-matic | |
Mysame wrote:
Joe, phulease. He's FOURTEEN and he thinks that RS was the only thing he lived for? If so, that kid should've gone to a court or something to sue his parents. Don't say you think this 'normal'. It can be normal. As said elsewhere in the topic, the RS trouble he had, probably, added some pain ontop of his current mental-trouble, not the game itself, but the friend who 'hacked' his account, and got against him. You are talking as if the game made him commit suicide, but it could be something else. Never judge too fast, Mysame. O-matic | |
Yeah, I mean its probably just a co-incidence that he got hacked around the same time, it probably didnt do him any good, but we dont know everything about this kids life so we dont know the other factors.
And ultimately, its not the fact that you lost your account or whatever that'd pee you off, it'd be the fact your friend did it, maybe there was some trouble between them, etc. | |
Different people have different things that are important to them and since you are not that person and you didn't live their life, you don't have any right to judge them.
SOMEONE DIED for christs sakes and you are sitting here calling them an idiot. Do you have any remorse at all? I've seen plenty of gamers like this. I used to play a mud. On the game they have clans. And specially made clan equipment. There is only ONE piece of each set of clan equipment and it has to be coded in each time they need to get a set. Thats how rare it is. Well I was in a clan one day when I found one of the rarest clan items laying on the ground. I picked it up and started to use it and I told some people in my clan about it. Turns out some oppsiate clan member from another clan had dropped it, and they found out and they were pissed. They werer so mad. Eventually some how they GOT MY PHONE NUMBER and were calling my house and threatening me with the police and stuff. I ended up sacraficing the damn thing so that it would be deleted out of the game and they had to recode it back in. That caused the biggest up roar EVER on the mud. As I recall the kid even did try and call the police in my town. But they just laughed at him and they told him to get a life. | |
Shades wrote:
I ended up sacraficing the damn thing so that it would be deleted out of the game and they had to recode it back in. I love this. I probably would've kept it but I doubt that would make as big a fuss. | |
You read that off some news site or in a newspaper? The media (and a lot of the public/government/a certain lawyer) love to blame games as the reason children are going off the rails, as opposed to bad parenting, social surroundings, poor schooling and so on.
Yeah. Getting your game saves lost can be a blow. When I was younger my brother deleted my Banjo Kazooie game saves and I cried. I had invested a good deal of my time into those saves! I'd probably still be pretty annoyed if somehow I lost a savefile in a game I've been playing. Recently my Black and White 2 save games corrupted. It annoyed me, but not too much. If that had happened and I had ranted to my mum about it, then commited suicide that very night due to completely unrelated reasons (maybe a bad home-life, bullying, whatever), then I expect the newspapers would be all over this extraordinary act of video-game prompted loss of life. | |
This is actually how I felt when I played Diablo II. I was "hacked" four times over four years. The first time, I just brushed it off and kept playing. The second time, I got somewhat angry, no big deal though - I could make it up. The third came around, now it was getting very annoying. The fourth time, I got so angry that I actually started crying because I was so addicted to the game. I laid down on my bed and thought about what I was doing, and I realized that it was extremely pathetic. Sure, I'm hated by 99% of the school, big deal. I got my account "hacked," no big deal. I still had my family, and that's what mattered to me most. So, I shrugged the whole thing off and quit Diablo II. Not long after I moved to where I currently live and came to BYOND when my friend invited me to play MLaaS.
Anyways, the point of this story is: As long as you have your priorities straight, you should have no problems in life, or something like that. ( Also, I'm 14 right now. The above happened between the ages of 9 and 13. I was actually still playing Diablo II a little bit when I initially came to BYOND. ) | |
One time I was playing Mario Sunshine and I got so mad I ended up throwng my controller through the window of my house... And the window was closed... =/
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i am 12 i play runescape and i get really mad sometimes like i had over 10million gp in my inventory and i died and about jumped out of my window on the 2nd story but i just breathed ate some sleeping pills and woke up later feeling nice and docile
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A week ago i was playing Arc the lad 2 for ps1 and i was at the end in a matter of 3 hour's and my bro deleate's my game when i get up to goto the bathroom, i was mad but i restarted, same thing happened two more time's and i almost strangled my bro to death (only if my dad wasnt there)...
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I really think this sucks. I feel badly for the kid and whoever involved. But, as said on here a hundred times, it probably wasn't the game that cause him to commit suicide.
I can understand the pragmatic among us who might call this person an idiot or something along those lines. As long as I understand that that pragmatic person probably said that out of frustration or anger with the person in question for doing something like this. I think the lesson that needs to be learned here is to remember that a game is only a game. Someone said on here that the mind defines what's truely important, so if the kid felt the game was important enough he'd commit suicide, or something along those lines. I would just add to that the simplistic logic that you can simply change what is important to you. Mental addictions can be derived from just about anything, but no addiction is impossible to break. It's merely a question of mental and emotional fortitude. What's really wrong with this situation is this poor kid's inability to figure out what really matters. Which may ultimatly be the the fault of his elders. There are many people who play a lot of mmorpgs who just don't have a clue. They get so wrapped up in their fantasy that they neglect reality. The problem isn't the games, it's the emotional ineptness of those playing them. | |
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