Airjoe wrote:

I'm -really- sick of hearing that response. You don't know me, you don't know my friends, and you don't know what jobs we do and don't want to do. A few years ago, there weren't even enough teens to work all the summer jobs around here. Now? Ha, good luck trying to find a job.

Blame diminished industry and lack of available jobs, not people's willingness to work.

Either way, I think my opinion on this whole thing is a little skewed since I'm probably the only person on this thread who wants more people to emmigrate to America (via any means) in order to destroy it's culture, economy and bring the giant bully down to it's knees.

Getting in on the American Dream is okay, if you do it legally. Saying you can break the laws to get in on the American Dream is like saying you couldn't arrest Al Capone because "he was getting in on the American Dream" even though he did it through illegal activity.

While I'm sure [most] illegal immigrants truly think they can get in on the American dream that way, that's because Mexico incourages them to go. I don't mind them so much - the problem is that if hopeful future citizens can come in illegally, without documentation, the ruthless, bloodthirsty, crazed islamofacists that want to kill us all can do the same thing. I would require nothing but a background check and a few required english and history classes for all incoming immigrants were I in charge - but I would [ideally] not allow anyone in without the permission of the government.

--Vito

Put them all in jail, get a background check, and ship the 77% (Vito's estimate) that are Illegal back home, and release the other 23% (estimate) with formal apologies. Effective, but Mexico would go nuts. (They're trying to run out all their poor, getting them all back would be an unwelcome suprise for them)


--Vito

I had pink eye for a week once, and some kid told the school I was skipping. They sent the person to my door and when my mom answered, they asked for me. I came to the door, they apologized and left. This was in a small school where everyone thinks everyone else's business is their business.

Vito Stolidus wrote:

...but if they all left, the jobs they leave will be filled in days.

more likely those businesses would go out of business because they'd be forced to pay higher wages due to employee demands or unions or existing laws. then there would be no jobs in certain industries in certain locations.

did anyone think to note that they do pay taxes in a round-a-bout way? most purchases would include a sales tax of some sort. they are just saving time by not filling out a tax return and getting money back from the government. you'd think people would be *happy* they are not doing that.

:p

In the area. Great Britain allowed us to go.. Most of the time. =D

Good for them. I hope people got in trouble. I was listening to the radio today and I heard that people in MY Town, the schools were telling children not to skip or they would be suspened and a number of buisness owners fired people who were no shows.

Other buisness owners just gave everyone the day off so they didn't get any problem with amercians who were working.

Really, its annoying. We have legal immgrants and illegal immgrants. The legal immgrants did it the proper way, they work and live legally in the USA and they pay taxes. They are part of the USA and should try to protect the way we live, instead of supporting these people who break the law.

Choose a side and stick with it. Live in Amercia, or Live in Mexico, where the water makes you pee blood.

Thats no excuse to try and attain through illegal means.

Vito Stolidus babbles:

...I, as an American, am paying them for those people.

so you actually pay more taxes than normal? that's odd- i have not heard taxes have gone up to compensate for illegal immigrants - heck, i don't think taxes have gone up in a long time. so i doubt you are paying for them too. usually when the government raises taxes it's to cover their butts from military spending, or debts they owe (or money they've lent out to other countries).

i've never heard of taxes being raised in the last 30 years due to illegal immigrants. so how exactly are you paying *for* them?

Crispy quoted:

get free education(which we Americans can't get)

speaking as an American ex-pat living in Germany now, i know this is nonsense. education is often paid through state funds which are often paid for by state taxes (so when you buy something part of that goes to education) or possibly taxes from other means. so the same access to schooling that you get, they get. besides, it's better to educate immigrants and help integrate them into the community than to kick them out again - that is one of Americas greatest values. the whole 'give us your tired, your poor, your hungry masses yearning to be free...' schtick.

about the only time when you (or more likely your parents) actually, directly, pay for education is when you wish to continue beyond high-school, ie: tech-school, college, university, etc. but that comes out of *your* pocket. you don't pay for someone else, do you?