In response to Shades
Shades wrote:
We had a civil war, we fought with England, people died. Thats what happened. But did we have help from France or anyone else? [No really, did we? I always slept in History Class.]

Actually, yeah, the French helped a lot.
In response to Airjoe
In a manner of speaking. They tried to help a lot. Like I said, their main force was wiped out by a British army 1/4 the size of the French.


--Vito
In response to Vito Stolidus
This is my point.
In response to Shades
Shades wrote:
It seems to me, at times we are forcing our own ideals on other people and causing wars and fights because of it and to me, that is the very defination of terrorism.

That is not terrorism. It is not right, but it is not terrorism.

People like Al Zarqawi, on the other hand, are terrorists. Taking them out has nothing to do with rebelling against oppressors. It is removing a criminal that plagues humanity, plain and simple as that. He didn't have "his own people." Al-Qaeda isn't a nation, it's a group of terrorists.
In response to Loduwijk
Maybe he was a criminal, but how far does our own laws go?
In response to Shades
It doesn't extend to normal criminals of other nations unless we are asked to help, but people linked to international terrorism are not a localized matter. People like Al Zarqawi are a threat to everyone.
In response to Loduwijk
Where is there any soild evidence that he was linked to the terroist attacks on our country? Just because he treats his own people like garbage doesn't make him a world wide terroist.
In response to Dick Gumshoe
I bet you can't google your heart out, and do that for the Andy Griffith theme song.
In response to Shades
World-wide terrorist, no. He wasn't. There is some fairly substantial evidence that he was behind some (definitely not all) of the violence in Iraq though.

Whether his death will actually change anything remains to be seen. Will Al-Qaeda suicide bombers continue to blow themselves up in Iraq? My money's on "yes". Al-Zarqawi may have been the "leader", but that doesn't mean the organisation will just stop without him. It's a network of independent cells, not a Godfather-style Mafia hierachy.
In response to Vito Stolidus
I beleive those mercs were called "Hessians." MAn, that got me screwed up a bit in American History when I thought the video said "Haitians."
In response to O-matic
Only one? Wiping them out is important, so they are basically all important trolls. I'm pretty sure there are more than one of those trolls. What's stopping them from secceeding his legacy, anway?
In response to Ben G
Well, that's definately what it's doing. Propaganda does wonders. However, it's definately true.
http://zarqawimped.ytmnd.com/

Sorry, had to...normally, I'd feel that any death is unnecessary, but...Zarqawi deserved what he got. It's people like him that give the average Muslim a bad name.

And no, I'm not a Muslim. Burn, Zarqawi.
In response to Tiko
I found it funny really...
so much media about him. The guy didnt know how to use a gun.
But he was good at tactics. Im not being bad but most terrorists are shias "Not muslim" they use islam as a cover up.
In response to Crispy
No, it won't stop. It will however, tell the terrorists that there is a consequence for their actions. I'd think twice about creating a terror network to attack a country if I thought I'd get the Al-Zarqawi treatment.


--Vito
In response to Vito Stolidus
Vito Stolidus wrote:
I'd think twice about creating a terror network to attack a country if I thought I'd get the Al-Zarqawi treatment.

But what if you were absolutely convinced that doing so would earn you eternity in heaven with your own personal harem?

I don't think it's going to make any difference, really. At best they might lose a bit of coordination, but the intensity of the attacks isn't likely to change.
In response to Crispy
If they're less coordinated, then that's good. For all the unspeakable things he did, you gotta admit: Al-Zarqawi lasted that long, greatly outnumbered. He had a good tactics sense. Wirthout his coordination, ambushes will be easier for Coalition troops to fight off and there will be less cooperation between terrorist cells.


--Vito
In response to Vito Stolidus
And you don't think there are at least a dozen other people willing and able to take his place?

It's a setback for Al-Qaeda, yes, and that's great. But it's a temporary one. The attacks will continue, and sooner or later they'll hook up a new tactician. Back to square one.

So while it is a cause for celebration, I'm not convinced that it will change much in the long term. Still, it's really impossible to say at this stage. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
In response to Elation
Elation wrote:
Have none of you played Deus Ex? The terrorists are the good guys.

It's all a government conspiracy with the UNATCO and the MJ12. Don't believe this ploy!

xD

Anyways... About time the bastard died I guess...
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