![]() Jun 18 2006, 4:19 pm
In response to SSJ2GohanDBGT
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That's messed up... blacks can be as racial as they want to, like how they have black only channels and stuff... but if a person made a channel called WET (white entertainment television) he would get arrested, what's up with that?
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CaptFalcon33035 wrote:
Since it becamse hard for Americans to get jobs because the illegal immigrants take them for lower wages. Not the general economy, but economy of the people of the working class. That's more to do with the way Americans've let their corporations walk all over them and run out of control, not anything to do with illegal immigrants. Everyone only blames it on the immigrants because they don't want to admit that pure, unregulated capitalism hurts people (specifically the lower classes) and so the blame is passed to the 'lower' social 'class', the immigrants. Scapegoat'd Jews'd (This is the part where I relate my opponent to Hitler, see?) All seriousness aside (I'm so funny), there wouldn't be an illegal immigrant problem if the corporations and businesses were kept under control (for instance, weren't allowed to pay the illegal immigrants lower-than-minimum wage and chose them in preference to those American citizens (who then find it hard to get jobs)). So yeah. The blame is misplaced. Put restrictions on the economy and plan it out, or y'know, stick with the current plan and let the rich fat-cats make a quick buck at the expense of everyone else. Probably why Bush 'n' that are so laid back when it comes to actual solutions to the whole thing (and are far more interested in blowing up a country like Iraq); they're making money out of your problems. |
CaptFalcon33035 wrote:
Y'know why? Because I am white. It's okay for them to clal each other disciminatory words, but not for me. Nah. It's not because you're white. It's really to do with the intent behind the word- if one black person says to another the word "Nigger" they are most likely not going to be using it as a racial slur with intent to insult (although they might be, but let's just assume that's not the case). In that instance, it's okay. Let's take another example- you're in English class and you're reading the book "To Kill a Mocking Bird". Your teacher and the class are discussing the book, it's history and influence. Your teacher says the word "nigger" to the class. Is that man then breaking the law (or I dunno. Aren't you Americans allowed to say things like that and not get in trouble with the law? Meh)/getting in serious trouble for being racist? Of course not, because he/her uses it without intent to insult or upset. It's generally about context. Of course if you are a white person calling a black person a nigger, you're most likely to offend! Calling someone an idiot or moron in the street is going to get you beaten up, too- you can call your friend an idiot and not expect to get beaten up, but some random stranger? Of course they're going to be offended! It's for historic reasons that someone would assume that if a white person called a black person a nigger they would be using it with the intent to insult. It's something you assume because of past-experience, social-climate and such. If someone knew the situation- knew that, say, the white and black person were best friends then it would be more obvious that the white person was not using it as a means to insult. It's less about racism, more about context and the situation. The same could be said for a blonde person calling another blonde person a "dumb blonde", or something along those lines. |
Of course you can learn English without going to school in the US, but if you come from a poor country with an underprivileged background it's going to be a lot harder. Sure, you can go and compare bibles or whatever, but it's a rare person who is able to do that. I don't think I'd be able to learn Spanish by studying a Spanish bible. Someone exactly as smart as me who already knew Spanish would be at a clear advantage.
I'm in much the same boat as you with university, except that I managed to get a scholarship (my entry score was 98.6 out of 100, and that's not on a linear scale; the highest person in my school got 99, and we had a lot of smart cookies). I'm from a similar socioeconomic background from the sound of things. I might have gone to university anyway if I hadn't got the scholarship, since we have a low-interest loans system that the government subsidises (which all Australian citizens can get, it isn't a means-tested thing). Makes it a lot easier (not to mention cheaper) to pay off the debt afterwards. |
No he wouldn't. People are free to express their beleifs. Unless you're a nazi. If you're a nazi, you're not allowed. It's illegal by international law.
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I beg to differ. My brother is into all that rap stuff. He's about 13 years old. Last year, he said "What's up my "nigger"" to one of his friends and he ended up getting jumped after school. I don't beleive it has anything to do with context. It is because we're white.
And in America, we have the freedom to say what we want. Unless we are promoting the nazi party. <_< |
They aren't allowed to pay illegal immigrants anything. They cannot hire them! They do anyway. I've said before, the government doesn't care about their stay here like they used to. Modern values have changed though.
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Most channels I see are mostly white people. BET has white people on it, and white people can watch it, so it's not really a "black channel". And as someone else has said CMT is basically the white BET.
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*shakes head vigorously* what?
what the heck do 'modern values' have anything to do with this? there is nothing modern about getting what-ever work you can. hiring people on the sly, cash-under-the-table/over-the-barrel , or for cheaper/minimal wages *is* the American way for nearly the last 600 years - heck this is done around the world in some form or fashion. it's good business sense since it can a) create jobs, and b) keep production costs down so that you can buy your cheap frozen foods and leather handbags. people just need to get off their butts and do an honest days work, regardless of the pay (as long as they can get the basics of course... not fund your WWF cable-tv connection and your K-Mart/Tesco Saturday shopper-specials for the brain-dead masses) and learn to appreciate it without demanding for more - the 'border jumpers' are sure doing a better job than you lot whining about it. |
CaptFalcon33035 wrote:
Rap is a crappy excuse for music. I guess it's supposed to be cool because some guy talks to a beat, saying things like "word up nigga I am rider dirty". And the way they call each other "nigga" is pretty stupid. If I said that, I'd get beat up by some gang. They'd all go for me at once. Apparently rap is a good genre of music; its taking over. But thing is, just don't say it. I myself wouldn't personally jump somebody if they called me a nigga. BUT if I know their intent, I wouldn't just take it quietly. I really can't explain it or speak for them, but when white people use it, the average black person thinks of it as demeaning. Although there is freedom of speech, its just easier not to say it to save yourself trouble. Like mooning, its legal, but you will get a negative reaction out of it... |
CaptFalcon33035 wrote:
I don't beleive it has anything to do with context. It is because we're white. Belief has no place when it comes to things like this; especially when you claim it is because you're white and don't give any reason to why it is such. |
Modern values are the reason they aren't being kicked out. Not because it's the right thing to do, but because they don't care.
Those laws about illegal immigration are simply outdated, and no one cares to change them. |
Did you not read anything in there but that one statement? My little brother got jumped, y'know, by a group of black boys, because he said to his friend "What's up my nigga?". How does that not prove the fact that it is because were white that we cannot say it.
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It's been going on for 50+ years. You act like this is a new issue or something...They just don't bother with it very much.
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What do you think really gives you the right to say it? You light-skinned people had plenty of time to say it before the slaves were freed all the way until about 1990. So now why you let us call each other nigga, and you guys lay off?
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