In response to Mike H
I have this game!
Back when I first moved to Ireland in August of the previous year, I had a Gameboy and this game to play.

No internet.

No computer.

No consoles.

Just this game.

For one month straight.

Catchy music, though. I eventually stopped playing once I heard it echoing in my dreams (no joke).

-Edit-

Nostalgia rush time!

1. Wii
2. Whatever else

Reason: Nintendo

Also I am camping out in November for my ideal Wii-tentertainment package, which will cost me around $600.

~Kujila
In response to FriesOfDoom
FriesOfDoom wrote:
While agree that it does have a kiddy image, I don't think its an issue after people play the games.

For sure, I agree. The problem, as you say, is trying to get people to try it initially; but once they do try it, then they're hooked. That's why I don't think that it will die off; as long as initial sales are good (and I have no reason to suspect otherwise), then the positive word-of-mouth will spread and they'll survive pretty well.
In response to Crashed
Crashed wrote:
So I don't know why there's so much hate because some XBOXs malfunctioned, they got repaired, didn't they?

I don't get why people have started taking quality standards so lightly in the console industry. In pretty much any other electronics field (TVs, stereos, computers) products getting released that melt is a big deal. It's not just the 360. The original XBox had similar problems if I remember right, the PSP seemed to be thrown together by wild dogs, and the PS2 lasers are a joke even today.
The truely odd part is people will buy a console on release knowing full well they may end up with a large, warm paperweight. I've got friends who have made statements along the line of 'yeah, I'm getting a PS3 on release, then if it's still working a few months later I'm going to sell it and buy a new one when all the bugs are worked out'. It seems to me that when they're holding you by the ankles and shaking the money out of your pockets on launch you should at least be relatively sure it wont explode.


I'll admit that most of the 'melting 360' type issues aren't as common as they sound, but I know a fair few people who sell consoles and the return rates for failures that aren't well known are apparently rediculous.
In response to FriesOfDoom
FriesOfDoom wrote:
Look at Animal Crossing. It looks very childish. My friend stated "I'll never get that game, it looks retarded." But as soon as I let him play it on my DS he went out and bought it the next week.

That happens a lot but the thing is people don't play them to begin with. Your friend probably brought and played Animal Crossing but did he start giving other kiddy looking games a chance.

I agree it's not as much of an issue after they've played the game, but it's getting them to that stage to begin with. Also the people do like the M rated games, so it's very important to give them that even if you're giving them other good games. At the end of the day they'd do themselves a lot more good making a couple of great Goldeneye/Perfect Dark level games than trying to convert these people to games they're always going to instictively reject.

I think a very big part of Nintendo's strategy should be putting as many playable displays in stores as possible and keeping the games in them fresh.
In response to Mike H
Eh, just because I didn't see an immediate response to your question...

Mike H wrote:
My counterpoint is that the Wii name is ridiculous. How is that even pronounced? "Why"? "Wee"? How can it possibly catch on with such a stupid name?

It's supposed to be "Wee" and, as I recall, the double-i at the end is somehow supposed to express unity.

I just thought that it was funny to consider the future children gamers. :)

[This scene takes place at some common kid's house. This kid will, for future reference, be named "Smargun." He is sitting in the living room, watching television with his friend, hereafter named "Jargolat0r." Smargun's mother, codenamed "Slick," is reading a book in the same room.]

Smargon: So, Jargolat0r, I'm allowed to have a friend over tonight! Want to stay over?
Jargolat0r: Sure! But first I need to go home and grab my Wee.
Slick: Actually, something came up. Your friend won't be able to stay, after all. '>_>

Hiead
1. Nintendo Wii
2. PS3
3. Xbox 360

Reasoning:

Nintendo Wii
Nintendo is the clear victor of the three. Nintendo has, over the years, been the only system to continually provide genuinely fun, addictive games. Nintendo also offers a nice price range and much more depth to the gameplay.

PS3
Sony's always offered a nice lineup of games. This is one of the things that attributed to its survival in the last next-gen series, where the PS2's specs were clearly weaker than its competitors.

Xbox 360
Microsoft is still new to the console-genre. With a few strong titles under their belt, they can survive in the market, but should by no means conquer any part of it other than specific genres, such as FPS games.

That is all.

Hiead
I think the Wii will do much better than the last two Nintendo consoles. However, I'm not convinced that the controller is worth using. I think Nintendo will do better because of their backwards compatability and the Virtual Console. Old Nintendo fans will be able to catch up on what they were missing and everyone will be able to enjoy the larger library. Being relatively cheap doesn't hurt either.

While the PlayStation 3 might not have many exclusive games yet, exclusive games have indeed been a large reason for why the PlayStation series has been so popular. The libraries were huge. If Sony can manage to avoid being too hard to develop for, the PS3 might have the same advantage. If they can manage to have the graphical capabilities that they claim to, they might get the best ports as well. However, the price of the system is terrible and I'd rather have a DualShock 2 than that tilting controller.

The Xbox 360 might do well, but I'm reminded of the last (current?) generation. I expect the online component to be fantastic just like it was with the Xbox. However, if the PS3 takes the graphical advantage then Xbox will no longer be the place to go for the best port. Naturally, I imagine there will be some great exclusive games, but every console will have some. (I'm tempted by Culdcept Saga, but I have PathWrath for my genre fix.)

1) Nintendo Wii
2) Sony PlayStation 3
3) Microsoft Xbox 360
In response to DarkView
DarkView wrote:
It seems to me that when they're holding you by the ankles and shaking the money out of your pockets on launch you should at least be relatively sure it wont explode.

But then you have people like me, who are so cheap they're willing to wait a few months to see if the NINTENDO WII will drop in price before getting one. :)
In response to DarkView
DarkView wrote:
That happens a lot but the thing is people don't play them to begin with. Your friend probably brought and played Animal Crossing but did he start giving other kiddy looking games a chance.

Actually he did, M&L Partners in time, just so you know :P

Also the people do like the M rated games, so it's very important to give them that even if you're giving them other good games. At the end of the day they'd do themselves a lot more good making a couple of great Goldeneye/Perfect Dark level games than trying to convert these people to games they're always going to instictively reject.

I agree with that, except Goldeneye nor Perfect Dark is M rated. Which shows that a FPS can be really fun with only a T rating, which Red Steel is :P. In a way I respect Nintendo for not going to the M rating and proving a great game can be made with only a T or E rating. But they should probely get a M game every once and awhile.(Nintendo buy Bungie PLEASE :P)

I think a very big part of Nintendo's strategy should be putting as many playable displays in stores as possible and keeping the games in them fresh.

I agree. I just dont know how they're gonna do that and have something so people can't steal the remote, but still experiance it.Maybe a retractable metal string? :P
In response to FriesOfDoom
FriesOfDoom wrote:
I just dont know how they're gonna do that and have something so people can't steal the remote, but still experiance it.Maybe a retractable metal string? :P

Yeah. That's really going to make things hard. I'd imagine you'd get tangled up in any sort of cord they attached. According to a friend of mine who played it at a staff event the other day there's a fair bit of movement. I'd imagine with something like Zelda or even Bowling the display model would be getting wacked against stuff all day long.
In response to Hiead
Hiead wrote:
1. Nintendo Wii
2. PS3
3. Xbox 360

PS3
Sony's always offered a nice lineup of games. This is one of the things that attributed to its survival in the last next-gen series, where the PS2's specs were clearly weaker than its competitors.

The PS3's major strength in this round is ignorance and fanboyism. It's more expensive than the competitors, and doesn't add much for that extra price. It's missing some features like controller rumble. There's also a fair number of people who would normally buy a PS that are more or less boycotting Sony due to past bad practices (ie: music CDs that install rootkits onto computers).

Sony fans will buy the console because they always have. There will be far less casual buyers once they're informed about how little they get for an extra $100-$200 in price.
In response to Jon88
Jon88 wrote:
Sony fans will buy the console because they always have. There will be far less casual buyers once they're informed about how little they get for an extra $100-$200 in price.

Yeah but a lot of casual buyers know enough (or are interested enough) to even think of that. If they've got a large number of games and those games look appealing (even if they're all garbage on the inside) people will buy the console.
I used to ask people 'why Sony' and they'd always quote the range of games in their list of reasons, yet if you follow up on that they've got a pretty short 'favorite games' list which consists mainly of games that they don't have but look good (most of which haven't been released). Meanwhile very few of the games they owned are on the list, inspite of the fact that they looked good before they brought them.

Yet those people are still perfectly happy with their choice in console, so who am I to tell them they're wrong?

Still you're right. There will be much less casual buyers buying PS3s than there were PS2s, if only for the fact the Wii is cheap and looks simple/incredibly entertaining. Lots of people brought the PS2 for EyeToy/SingStar, just imagine how many more would buy them if EyeToy/SingStar were actually good. =P
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