Nintendo Power in every issue has one of these. A point, with someone countering it. I though it would be fun to do that BYOND style so here it goes.
Which Console system will be the leader in 2 years?
360, Wii, or PS3.
Format
1st place console:
2nd place console:
3rd place console:
Reason:
1st. Wii
2nd. 360
3rd. PS3
Reason: First off the PS3's price tag, problems with blue ray, and leaving out UK will be its downfall. Not to mention that Playstation does not have many console only games, most are made on the other systems.
360 is going to be at least 2nd because of Halo 3, and its awsome graphics. Although, I have to say on certain games like oblivion, it short-loads way too much. I was getting a short load every 3 steps.
Wii will be the leader because:
1. Price tag
2. Sweet control
3. Huge release line-up
4. Lots of console only games
5. It will most likely be every 360 and PS3(maybe not PS3) owner's 2nd console.
Show your point or counterpoint!
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 Oct 21 2006, 3:55 pm
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Elation wrote:
For Kids!? While graphics and design on most of the games look like they're for kids, they're not. Most "Kids Games" are the dinky little learning games. For example Legend of Zelda Wind Waker, great story line, cartoony graphics, lots of coordination needed for certain things. Most of Nintendo's games I have, not 3rd party games, Kids (unless gamers) have a hard time playing. My nephews can't even beat the first 2 lvls in Mario Bros. They're not that young. I've had each Nintendo console, not to mention almost every console except for the Atari, and the PS2; and most games I've played of Nintendo's may look childish, but have great gameplay. Don't judge a book by its cover.leaving out UK will be its downfall. Anyother Points,Counterpoints? | |
Hmm, I can't really say..
Wii ? 360 > PS3 The PS3 along with Sony has many odds agaisnt them this year: . The PS3 isn't even confimred to launch on Nov. 17th. The confirmed it, unconfirmed, reconfirmed, and finally unconfrimed it again due to technical issues. . Alot of the titles aren't ps3 exclusive . The PS3 costs alot . They aren't shipping that many, 400k in US(compared to 1mill Wiis and 7 mill of em by March) and idk about other countries So with all that, I'm gonna say that PS3 will definitely be last. As for the Wii and 360, I'm very unsure. As much as I'd like to believe that Wii is the perfect console, it just isn't. The thing that Wii does have for it though, is sole gameplay experience. If the controller is utilized, no game on Wii will be the same on any other system, making it truly unique. The 360 on the other hand, I don't know much about either, but Gears of War definitely looks cool and could possibly be its "killer app". So only not to show favortism and because of my lack of alot of knowledge of a system I don't have much interest in, I'm unsure of who will be the leader, but sure that PS3 will be last. Even Microsoft and Sony themsleves are unsure of this. Apparently, they don't doubt the Wii very much: both companies beleive that their console will be 1st, while Wii will be 2nd. | |
FriesOfDoom wrote:
Nintendo Power in every issue has one of these. A point, with someone countering it. I though it would be fun to do that BYOND style so here it goes. 1st place console: Wii 2nd place console: 360 3rd place console: PS3 Reason: PS3's price tag, not to mention the shortage of them. The 360 will be second simply because it has a middle of the road price, with decent titles. Halo 3 will NOT be an advantage for this system, if it is anything like Halo 2. Redundant, repetitive, cliche are the three best words to describe Halo 2. Wii will be the leader because: 1.)Huge line-up of age-old family friendly titles such as zelda. 2.)Price tag | |
Silent Sage wrote:
Halo 3 will NOT be an advantage for this system, if it is anything like Halo 2. Redundant, repetitive, cliche are the three best words to describe Halo 2. Counterpoint: Halo is so popular that there are probably some fanboys who will buy the console just for Halo 3, no matter how good or otherwise it is; so I think it is an advantage. I do, however, agree that the Wii will sell more. | |
1st. PS3 (I don't see them having the same lead they have today, but I also don't see Nintendo over-taking them in one swift move)
2nd. Wii 3rd. XBox 360 Reasons: I honestly think that if things go wrong the Wii's initial success could kill Nintendo off (at least in terms of consoles). There's going to be a lot of Wiis out there and if they're sitting their gathering dust two years down the track and games aren't selling it could be worse than if there's only a couple of Wiis out there. If the Wii doesn't sell that well developers might be convinced that their next console will sell better, but if Wii does sell well and games stop selling developers aren't going to support the next console because even when people had the console they weren't interested in the games. At the end of the day the Wii has everyone excited but if Nintendo comes to the table without doing something to change their 'kiddy console' image people aren't going to stick with it. It's what got them into this position in the first place and it still hasn't been properly addressed. Hopefully the buzz the Wii is generating will get stores stocking enough titles to show that while Nintendo don't make many non-PG games there are third party games out there with 'adult' ratings. The reason why I put PS3 in at number one is simple, a huge chunk of the market only cares about power, graphics and image. Those people aren't going to be swayed to the Wii very easily. They're used to PS2 so they're waiting for that instead of jumping right on board with the XBox 360. By the time the PS3 is out the 360 will have probably cooled down enough the PS3s newness will outweigh most of the 360's advantages. The XBox 360 is in third because it's just not that popular inspite of great systems (XBox Live), great games and great power. Gamers can appreciate that stuff but most of them would rather PCs. | |
DarkView wrote:
There's going to be a lot of Wiis out there and if they're sitting their gathering dust two years down the track and games aren't selling it could be worse than if there's only a couple of Wiis out there. If the Wiis are gathering dust in two years, sure; but that's a very big assumption to make. It would seem to imply that the Wii becomes initially popular but then mysteriously loses its popularity, and I don't count that as likely. I think it will have long-term appeal as a gaming system. Certainly the "kiddy console" image is an issue, but I don't see how it will stop people "sticking with it". I'd tend to think the opposite; it may prevent people from buying it initially, but once they buy it they'll realise the breadth of games that are available. It's an initial stumbling block perhaps, but not a long-term problem. (Incidentally, thus far this thread is probably the most civil console discussion we've had for a long time. Keep it up, guys!) | |
DarkView wrote:
1st. PS3 (I don't see them having the same lead they have today, but I also don't see Nintendo over-taking them in one swift move) I didn't read most of what you said but I did read the part about the Wii failing killing off Nintendos console selling. Seeing Wii's probably cost less to make then they sell them for, at worst they'll lose a bit of money but not as much as PS3 has to lose or will loose no matter how many they sell | |
Crispy wrote:
If the Wiis are gathering dust in two years, sure; but that's a very big assumption to make. I'm not saying it will happen, or even that it's very likily. I really hope it doesn't. I just think that if they don't address the issues that put them in the position they were in pre-Wii they're just setting themselves up to fall again. However this time if they fail it's going to be really hard to get third-party developers on board for their next console. Odds are the Wii isn't going to have the blood, sex and violence that a lot of the poeple it's bringing over want in their games. I doubt those people will stick around for the cool controller after they realise that. That said hopefully the demand for Wiis makes sure that stores carry a fuller game range, rather than just the top sellers. The Gamecube had so many cool titles that were just impossible to track down. Online trailer delivery should help that a lot as well. Here's hoping. =P (Incidentally, thus far this thread is probably the most civil console discussion we've had for a long time. Keep it up, guys!) Yeah. I was pretty surprised about that as well. | |
I think the Wii will do really well as Nintendo takes their time with things to make it proper and entertaining. Unlike when the 360 first came out and I'm not even gonna mention PS3. ;)
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Crispy wrote:
Certainly the "kiddy console" image is an issue I remember when Ninty was actively pushing the kiddy image with adverts and stuff and interviews with top Nintendo HQ staff were going on about how much they wanted to focus on the younger generation. Whoever had the idea should have been shot (probably was, now that Nintendo are trying to reverse the situation)- it's reputation as making stuff for kids has easily been the biggest retardant on it's progress throughout the console wars. Just weird to think that at one point they encouraged it, as if it was a good idea. =/ If I had a time machine and a sniper rifle the Wii would be the only console out on the market this winter. =P | |
1st Nintendo Wii
2nd Playstation 3 3rd Direct Xbox 360 Reasons: Nintendo has always been king of games before, they have aces up there sleeves, there games always does seem kiddy, but probably because of mario,punchout,castlevania,zelda sold so damn well before and probably don't wanna let the elder gamers let go of that kid in them, Nintendo wii shows both power and speed, and great gameplay in the videos at TGS, E3. I think this time nintendo was using gamecube as a shield to protect themselve from the other companies to create something better a much more creative console, I just hope they know what there doing now. Playstation 3, is still agressive champion now with huge detail graphics, but showing that controller at E3 showing some 3d controller on the screen flying totally got them shot in the leg and cripple them there a bit. Not to mention the half grand to save up. Xbox, well Halo 3 is what keeping them important to get. They got some other good line ups as well. reason I put them 3rd cause PS3 or wii will leap frog them. | |
Crispy wrote:
Certainly the "kiddy console" image is an issue, While agree that it does have a kiddy image, I don't think its an issue after people play the games. Look at Animal Crossing. It looks very childish. My friend stated "I'll never get that game, it looks retarded." But as soon as I let him play it on my DS he went out and bought it the next week. I think thats what Nintendo is trying to do with the Wii remote. People will be more willing to try it out, and thus play the "kiddy" games and find out they're about as fun as alot of M games(I'd play LOZ OT or LOZ WW over Halo 2's campain anyday). (Incidentally, thus far this thread is probably the most civil console discussion we've had for a long time. Keep it up, guys!):P Amen to that | |
FriesOfDoom wrote:
Nintendo Power in every issue has one of these. A point, with someone countering it. I though it would be fun to do that BYOND style so here it goes. Wow, that magazine is still around? I remember having a subscription for a few years when the NES was still the latest and greatest console. They had a section where players could send in photos of high score screens and get their names in the magazine. Do they still do that? My moment of glory came when I got my name in for getting a really good high score in Revenge of the Gator for the original Gameboy. Must have been 1990 or 1991. My counterpoint is that the Wii name is ridiculous. How is that even pronounced? "Why"? "Wee"? How can it possibly catch on with such a stupid name? Person 1 "I'm going to go play Why." Person 2 "I don't know." Person 1 "I'm going to go play Weeeee!" Person 2 "Are you 4 years old?" Person 1 "Wii." Person 2 "Because you said Weeee." Person 1 "I know. Wii." Person 2 "Right. He's on first." | |
I find it very odd that lots of people had "melting" consoles when I've never even encountered one. Sure, it may have happened a few times, but most likely not as many as has been reported. I do believe some people faked some of their stories, even ones who didn't even own an XBOX 360. I got a first-generation XBOX 360, it's still running. My friend got a first-generation XBOX 360, that's still running. 15 other people at my school got first-generation XBOX 360s, not one major problem 'till this day (nearly a one-year birthday). So I don't know why there's so much hate because some XBOXs malfunctioned, they got repaired, didn't they?
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Mike H wrote:
My counterpoint is that the Wii name is ridiculous. How is that even pronounced? "Why"? "Wee"? How can it possibly catch on with such a stupid name? The Wii's name is either a marketing blunder, or marketing genius. With a strange name like that, people are talking about it more: there's more word-of-mouth advertising. It's also showing off the uniqueness of the console relative to the other offerings. (You can associate the unique name "Wii" with the unique controller it has). It'll be interesting to see how all this marketing buzz translates into sales. | |
Maybe a little of both, depending on the area. I know a few people who aren't going to buy it because of that name.
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Quoted for accuracy.
My counter point is that Nintendo is for kids!111