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I was at a resturant today, and I thought I would give my fake id a shot. It got turned down, and taken away. My point is that America is to strict, and making something illegal, just makes teens want to do it more. Countrys like Germany whos drinking age is 16 dont have the problems we have in America. They are also smart in making the driving age 18, I know when i was 16(now 17) I was defenetly not mature enough to get behind the wheel.
Australia rocks you can get you're L's at age 16 ( L's you must have a licensed passenger in the front passenger seat with you always when driving) the after about a year ish you can get the P's this is where you can drive by yourself then you get the second set of P's then the full license.

Australia's drinking age is 18 (GO AUSSIES) although mostly everyone at the age 16-17 drinks anyway i know i did.

America has some weird laws but not as bad as this one - if someone breaks into your house trips and breaks a bone or get injured really bad they can SUE THE HOME OWNER... Aussie's worst law ever.
So you're complaining that teens can't drink but can drive in the US, and can drink but can't drive in other countries?

Does that kinda invalidate the point you're trying to get across?

And yeah, forging government documents is illegal.
In response to A.T.H.K
if someone breaks into your house trips and breaks a bone or get injured really bad they can SUE THE HOME OWNER...

Pretty sure theres some parts of the US where this can happen too.

Also, if someone trespasses on my property to go fishing in my pond and winds up drowning, then I can be held liable. This is why we tell all the neighbors who come asking if they can go fishing no. They wind up sneaking over and doing it anyway...
In response to A.T.H.K
A.T.H.K wrote:
if someone breaks into your house trips and breaks a bone or get injured really bad they can SUE THE HOME OWNER... Aussie's worst law ever.

That works in America, too. >_> Same as if someone's skateboarding on your porch, stairs or hand-rail, and they get injured. Or, what's more, if you shovel your snow and then someone slips on it, you're liable. If you don't shovel it at all, though, you're not. I'm pretty sure these are general laws throughout the U.S., but they at least apply here in Ohio.

Hiead
In response to A.T.H.K
A.T.H.K wrote:
America has some weird laws but not as bad as this one - if someone breaks into your house trips and breaks a bone or get injured really bad they can SUE THE HOME OWNER... Aussie's worst law ever.

Actually a man broke into my uncle's apartment and my uncle woke up and beat him within a inch of his life and ended up going to jail for it, for 6 month.
Uh, you knowingly and blatantly broke the law and the worst that happened was you got your ID taken away. That isn't strict. That's lax. In a repressive government, merely possessing phony documentation would get you imprisoned. After all, if you have such things, you could be a dangerous criminal.

People who want to drink more because they're not allowed to are by definition not mature enough to drink.
In response to Hedgemistress
Hedgemistress wrote:
Uh, you knowingly and blatantly broke the law and the worst that happened was you got your ID taken away. That isn't strict. That's lax. In a repressive government, merely possessing phony documentation would get you imprisoned. After all, if you have such things, you could be a dangerous criminal.

Even in the US its a Class A misdemeanor. That means all it takes is to get caught with it by someone who isn't just going to take it away and you're looking at upto a year in prison and/or fines upto $10,000. Not to mention said resturant could have faced a lot of money in fines aswell as having their license to sell alcohol revoked.
Nothing is more annoying than someone getting off easy and then complaining when they would otherwise be sitting in a jail cell. Hopefully you'll end up getting caught with one and given more than the slight inconvenience of having to go and get yourself another.
Tons of countries are better than america, of course no american will probably admit that because of the propaganda the government throws in their face every second of their life without them even really knowing it.
Who came up with the magic 18 number anyways.

If you give your kids access to smokes and booze at any age, they won't want them so badly because they are not "FORBIDDEN"
In response to Dragonn
It's got little to do with propaganda and everything to do with human nature. Everybody who doesn't live in some war-torn hellhole is going to be naturally inclined to believe their country is the best, their way of doing things is right, etc.... and even 90% of the people who live in some war-torn hellhole will still feel a deep-seated sense of pride in their country, or at least the idea of it.

It's a "You Will Suffer Humiliation When The Sports Team From My Area Defeats The Sports Team From Your Area" mentality.

It's nice to think that all the problems in America can be attributed to some shadowy conspiracy faction that's manipulating everything... believe it or not, on a psychological level, it's actually reassuring for people to think that somebody is controlling all this stuff and it's not just the results of randomness, institutional stupidity, and a dozen different gears trying to turn in different directions all at once...

...but it really is just the result of randomness, institutional stupidity, and a dozen different gears trying to turn in different directions all at once. The machinery of government in America is too bloated, too dissipated, and too inefficient for one central faction to make much headway controlling things.

Anyway, on the subject of which country is best... if I recall correctly, Norway actually tops the standard of living charts through its unique combination of western-style government and eastern-style oil reserves. Though I'm not sure if they alphabetize their phone books by first name, as is the custom in Iceland, or by last name, as God clearly intended.
In response to A.T.H.K
A.T.H.K wrote:
if someone breaks into your house trips and breaks a bone or get injured really bad they can SUE THE HOME OWNER...

Whoops! I'd better get rid of the body then! <_<

Seriously, who thought up of this retarded rule? A burglar doesn't even have to steal now: he can just forcibly cause him an injury on your territory and you'd be held liable. You'd have to pay him money.
In response to Hiead
...It's definitely not like that all over the united states lol. If someone trespasses on your private property in Arkansas you can kill them for the sheer reason of "I told them to get off my property." Unless your a minor...then it's non-lethal take downs only. Not sure what they say officially but that's basically how it goes. Also Dragonn sounds like a conspiracy nut, knifo is an idiot, always remember that bush is your friend, and god bless america.

- The man who hates people who put their name after what they say.
Move to Iraq or something. I'm sure it's much better then.

Better yet, get a sex change and then move there.
In response to Obiare
Obiare wrote:
...It's definitely not like that all over the united states lol. If someone trespasses on your private property in Arkansas you can kill them for the sheer reason of "I told them to get off my property."

Telling them to get off and outright shooting them is different. If they refuse, you can kill them in Ohio, as long as you've warned them (I think). Also, keep in mind that injury != death---I suppose it's possible that if you shot someone and they survived it, they may well sue you. Then again, I'm no law buff, and I don't claim to know much of anything about the laws, well, anywhere. =P

- The man who hates people who put their name after what they say.

Hiead
In response to A.T.H.K
In America, if you get hurt on someone's property, you can sue them. It's a really weird law, but there are many exceptions. I believe that if the owner of the property inflicts the damage the victim received while on the owner's property, the victim can't sue successfully. Don't quote me on this, though.

Also, in Florida (because this may differ from state to state), students at the age of 15 can get a learners' license. They need to be accompanied by a licensed driver who is over 18 years old. To get a license, they need to be in accordance with school attendances, have over a certain amount of driving hours during the day and night separately, they have to pass some exam, and be 16 years of age.
In response to DDSR
DDSR wrote:
Who came up with the magic 18 number anyways.

If you give your kids access to smokes and booze at any age, they won't want them so badly because they are not "FORBIDDEN"

Only retarded kids maybe, I never had that forbidden fruit syndrome. And if my kids try to pull that crap I'll simply hit them with a sock full of quarters.
In response to Revenant Jesus
Revenant Jesus wrote:
And if my kids try to pull that crap I'll simply hit them with a sock full of quarters.

Why? Hammers or cars work so much better.
In response to Hedgemistress
Hedgemistress wrote:
Though I'm not sure if they alphabetize their phone books by first name, as is the custom in Iceland, or by last name, as God clearly intended.

I know you're being ironic, but to be technical, Icelanders don't have last names. Anna Grimsdottir (shamelessly taken from Splinter Cell) means "Anna, daughter of Grim". So her name is "Anna", just Anna, and to distinguish her from all of the other Annas you just remember whether her dad's name was Grim or Hans or whatever.
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