This isn't a matter of private property, or the capitalistic ideology of most people these days. He (the op) was given a space to write things and this space did not physically effect anyone. Yet they took away his "rights" gained with membership because they didn't like what he posted. I really don't see how a metaphor of a house has anything to do with this. If anything, it supports his "right" to post what he wants on his "property"/blog.
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I don't mean to sound annoying, but honestly no one ever reads
the TOS of ANYTHING. People just use them as an excuse to justify any action as correct. | |
If it's in the TOS, then they are right, because those are what they agreed to. It's just like a contract. You should always read the fine print because, regardless of whether or not you read it, you still agreed to it. A big bold "DUH" goes out to you.
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How can I agree to something without someone/something actually asking me to agree to it? I'm going to write on a paper that anyone who walks on my driveway agrees to be my slave forever. So what if it's unfair, they agreed to it after all.
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TOS's are like blood contracts with the devil. No matter what they can just add "subject to change", and you automatically lose since it's there service.
My school did something similar to that a couple weeks before graduation. They said all seniors who get suspended due to any circumstance will not be able to walk and they presented us with a contract listing these things. THey said that even though we didn't sign it; it was still effective. But why would they go through the hassle of making contracts in which even if we dont agree to, we already did!!?? Yeah, lifes a bitch. (and then you marry one) | |
Are you saying that BYOND has no rights to control the content that they display? That they are to be FORCED and BULLIES by its clients to post whatever they want right up on the front page with a big ol' "THE ADMINISTRATION OF BYOND IMPLICITLY ENDORSES THESE OPINIONS."
No, that's not how it works, and you're a hypocritical idiot for thinking that the user gets to bully the provider around like that. | |
It's not bullying. The person paid money to be able to do that, how is that a one sided "relationship"? BYOND is bullying him by telling him what he can post on HIS space. If
the owners of BYOND don't like that, they shouldn't take his money, pretty simple. | |
It's not his space, idiot, it's BYOND's space. He's paying to use their service, and they don't have to let him do so.
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If they take away their service (letting his stuff be shown on the front page) then they should give him his money back.
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He paid for the ability to post whatever he wants on his space, provided it falls within certain guidelines.
It's like going to a shooting gallery at a carnival, picking up the BB gun and shooting the carnie in the booth withi t. Yes, you paid for the use of the BB gun, but not for that purpose. | |
He paid for a membership. As such he paid for all benefits of a member. When he bought his membership, they did not say "If we don't like what ya post gtfo, but we'll keep your money, k?". If he didn't verbally, (or through typing) agree to something it is unfair to just enact it. As stated before, my slave agreement example applies.
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By buying a membership, he agreed to the terms of server. If you can't figure that out, you're an idiot.
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Zapno wrote:
He did not agree to the contract. So this page is just for show, then? http://members.byond.com/?command=terms_of_service Same as any rules posted on an establishment's door, walls, etc. Oh wait. You have to follow those, or they can kick you out. | |
Zapno wrote:
He paid for a membership. As such he paid for all benefits of a member. When he bought his membership, they did not say "If we don't like what ya post gtfo, but we'll keep your money, k?". If he didn't verbally, (or through typing) agree to something it is unfair to just enact it. As stated before, my slave agreement example applies. http://members.byond.com/?command=terms_of_service Is paying them money verbal, or through typing? (trick question, text is still verbal) | |
Well, private property, private rules. If you were to come in my house and put up a poster of a bikini-clad Pamela Anderson (from back when she was still reasonably attractive), I would tell you to take it down. If you didn't, I would take it down myself. If you made a big point of it, I'd give you a boot out the door. =)
The same applies to the internet, and though young'uns don't seem to draw the parallel, people online are just as real as people offline and posting something that is offensive in your physical community is no more or less bad than posting it in your intangible community.
(Right now I'm deciding I need a bit more time offline to get at least a little more worldly, but I can tell you right now that a great deal of my interpersonal skills in the "real" world came from talking on the internet.)