America is number one, get over it.
America is number one, get over it.

Damn straight.
America, fuck yeah
Woot america is teh ownage aside from Bush and everything else. Wait I guess we aren't that great then!
Coming to save, the motherfucking day, yeah!
Everyone has much bigger problems than if you see a walmart in England.

We do have them in england there called ASDA though. Its just ower current PM his a ass kisser we need Margaret Thatcher back!
Worldweaver, globalisation implies that you get other countries' stuff, not that they all get yours and give you nothing in return. Culturally, the entire world is becoming American. Why? Because America has a monetary gun placed to the economic head of most countries in the world, because of industrial relations laws that verge on criminal, a miniumum wage that's a joke, and the general encouragement given to the rich to get richer.

As if you get stuff from elsewhere. You still use the bloody metric system. You speak a different language to every other english speaking country in the history of existance - and yet American is considered the global tongue. Have a look at HTML - the tag is color. Which is bad English, I'm afraid.
Yorae said:
Its just ower current PM his a ass kisser we need Margaret Thatcher back!

I seriously hope you were joking there (and no, I don't mean because you spelt it "ass" instead of "arse").

The only redeeming feature about Thatcher was her steamin' hot booty!
Worldweaver, globalisation implies that you get other countries' stuff, not that they all get yours and give you nothing in return.


Globalization is an umbrella term for a complex series of economic, social, technological, cultural and political changes seen as increasing interdependence, integration and interaction between people and companies in disparate locations. The phenomenon has been noted since the 1980s in the context of sociological study on a worldwide scale. The concept has been referred to as The shrinking of time and space.

- Wikipedia

Culturally, the entire world is becoming American. Why? Because America has a monetary gun placed to the economic head of most countries in the world, because of industrial relations laws that verge on criminal, a miniumum wage that's a joke, and the general encouragement given to the rich to get richer.



If you live in a global economy, those who are best at doing business win. Don't complain about americanisation just because your countries suck at competing on a global scale. Countries like China have managed to beat us in many places. You're just lazy socialist slobs without motivation. Socialism murders countries.



As if you get stuff from elsewhere. You still use the bloody metric system.

We use the English system.


You speak a different language to every other english speaking country in the history of existance - and yet American is considered the global tongue.

Maybe because we made it easier


Have a look at HTML - the tag is color. Which is bad English, I'm afraid.

Perfect grammar to me. We don't like sticking u's where they aren't needed.

a miniumum wage that's a joke
$5 an hour is a hell of a lot for flipping burgers.
And high minimum wages have ruined your economies.
Thank you for providing a definition of globalisation. Note that it isn't interdependance if you make everyone do things your way and ignore them.

If you live in a global economy, those who are best at doing business win. Don't complain about americanisation just because your countries suck at competing on a global scale. Countries like China have managed to beat us in many places. You're just lazy socialist slobs without motivation. Socialism murders countries.

There's this limit that we call 'morality'. I mean, you could compete better by bringing back slave labour, couldn't you? But you don't. Why? Because it's immoral.

Furthermore, Australia is hardly socialist. Learn what socialism actually is before throwing it around. I wish we were socialist.

We use the English system.

That was a typo. <_<. I meant 'imperial system', of course. The point still stands - NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD still uses the imperial system. None. Not even the English (Which is why calling it 'the English system' is silly). This is because it's harder to use then the metric system, and because it sucks.

Maybe because we made it easier

Bullshit. You've made it harder for people to learn English by throwing your inconsistent crap all over the place. You can't go around changing the spelling of a language, then claiming that you're right and that everybody else speaking that language is wrong. What you've done is created a new dialect.

Perfect grammar to me. We don't like sticking u's where they aren't needed.

Wll, 'm sr y cn gt by wtht vwls t.

Wt! 'y' cn b sd s vwl t! Qckl, s n 'y's!

$5 an hour is a hell of a lot for flipping burgers.

Someone working, say, 38 hours a week (To avoid benefits, of course), then gets $190 US a week. This is working 5 and a half hours a day, approximately, including sunday. That's $253 AUD, approximately, which is screw-all. By screw all, I mean barely enough to pay for anything more then rent and food. You need medical treatment? Too bad, can't afford it. Want to pull yourself out of poverty and squalor? Too bad, can't afford it. That's why your minimum wage (Which hasn't changed in more then TEN YEARS) is way, way too low. Ours aren't high - and haven't ruined our economies, either.
Thank you for providing a definition of globalisation. Note that it isn't interdependance if you make everyone do things your way and ignore them.

Hardly! You're extremely biased, I ate at a mexican food restaurant just today. Give me examples, stop throwing out baseless insults to our country. When in hell have we ever ignored other cultures? Your american insults don't have a base, they're fed by some disgruntled euro without a dime of common sense.

Furthermore, that statement implies the most stupid , obviously wrong, thing about America I've ever heard. What rock have you been living under?

That was a typo. <_<. I meant 'imperial system', of course. The point still stands - NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD still uses the imperial system. None. Not even the English (Which is why calling it 'the English system' is silly). This is because it's harder to use then the metric system, and because it sucks.

I'm not here to defend an outdated measuring system. I can, and almost everyone in America can, measure in the metric system. You said earlier that we don't take anything from any other countries. Look at the name of our freakin' system.

There's this limit that we call 'morality'. I mean, you could compete better by bringing back slave labour, couldn't you? But you don't. Why? Because it's immoral.

Having a different minimun wage, and being competitive is hardly immoral. Stop feeding anti-american crap propaganda into your posts.


Furthermore, Australia is hardly socialist. Learn what socialism actually is before throwing it around. I wish we were socialist.

England was the topic of conversation.


Bullshit. You've made it harder for people to learn English by throwing your inconsistent crap all over the place. You can't go around changing the spelling of a language, then claiming that you're right and that everybody else speaking that language is wrong. What you've done is created a new dialect.

Inconsistent crap? Hardly. You obviously are ignorant about why we changed the spellings. We did so for the reason of making it easier to learn for immigrants. And thank god for Mr.Weber. Now we don't have to stick useless U's everywhere.

Wll, 'm sr y cn gt by wtht vwls t.

Wt! 'y' cn b sd s vwl t! Qckl, s n 'y's!

Obviously I'm talking about your spellings of colour and other words with useless, hard to learn, extra letters that make no sense to use.

Someone working, say, 38 hours a week (To avoid benefits, of course), then gets $190 US a week. This is working 5 and a half hours a day, approximately, including sunday. That's $253 AUD, approximately, which is screw-all. By screw all, I mean barely enough to pay for anything more then rent and food. You need medical treatment? Too bad, can't afford it. Want to pull yourself out of poverty and squalor? Too bad, can't afford it. That's why your minimum wage (Which hasn't changed in more then TEN YEARS) is way, way too low. Ours aren't high - and haven't ruined our economies, either.


So? Maybe that'd drive someone to pass highschool. That's what you get for failing. The creme rises to the top. You can obviously get out of that hole with lots of hard work. It's been shown time and again with immigrants to this country.


I ate at a mexican food restaurant just today

Wow! Look! We eat our culturally-stereotyped version of your food! We're culturally aware!

When in hell have we ever ignored other cultures?

All the bloody time. If I wanted to go really far back, I could mention slavery. But somewhat closer to the present day, say, Vietnam? America is incredibly arrogant. Remember Freedom Fries?

I'm not here to defend an outdated measuring system. I can, and almost everyone in America can, measure in the metric system. You said earlier that we don't take anything from any other countries. Look at the name of our freakin' system.

Ah, but officially, you use the imperial system. Everything is given in miles and gallons, unless you need to actually do physics with the units, or something like that. Furthermore, the only reason you use the imperial system is because you were colonised by the british when they still used the imperial system. That's not taking stuff from other countries, that's initial conditions.

Having a different minimun wage, and being competitive is hardly immoral.

It is if your different minimum wage means that people can work two jobs and still be under the poverty line. America has the sharpest division between rich and poor of any developed country in the world. You have the most unequal division of wealth in the developed world. It's nothing to do with free market economics, and has everything to do with privilege. If your parents can afford to put you through school and college, and get you started on having a nice business, you're fine. Otherwise, it's a struggle.

England was the topic of conversation.

The topic of conversation is whether or not America is some sort of God amongst the men of other nations, like you seem to view yourselves. I live in Australia, so when you're arguing with me, I assume you're talking about Australia.

Also, dare I point out that England isn't actually socialist, too?

Inconsistent crap? Hardly. You obviously are ignorant about why we changed the spellings. We did so for the reason of making it easier to learn for immigrants. And thank god for Mr.Weber. Now we don't have to stick useless U's everywhere.

Then STOP CALLING IT ENGLISH. This is the problem. It isn't 'easier' to learn if you make some spellings more phonetic, it just makes it different. And it certainly makes it NOT English.

Obviously I'm talking about your spellings of colour and other words with useless, hard to learn, extra letters that make no sense to use.

Right, let's just drop the letter u entirely.

More seriously, I was satirically pointing out that you CAN removed 'useless extra letters that make no sense to use', but the result can be mildly cnfsng.

So? Maybe that'd drive someone to pass highschool

Nobody deserves to live in squalor. NO-BOD-Y. Plus, in some circumstances, people need to work in these sorts of jobs. I'm a university student - I already study full time, so I need a casual job. I can't work much time each week. I would certainly find it difficult to support myself if I didn't still live with my parents. Trying to do something like that in America would be suicidal. Just because someone hasn't passed high school doesn't mean that they can be denied basic human rights, like the right ot shelter, or the right to have clean food and water, or other such things. Aren't you supposed to be the land of the free? The French called, they want their statue back.

If your parents are poor, it's difficult to get a decent education. It's difficult to get what is neccessary to climb the social ladder. And if you get unlucky - say, you get a nasty disease, or become a victim of the crime caused by poverty, you're pretty much screwed. It shouldn't take this much work to move from the lower ranks of society to the upper ranks. You shouldn't need to be a complete and utter workaholic to rise above the poverty line.

Poor people are still people, Worldweaver.
Wow! Look! We eat our culturally-stereotyped version of your food! We're culturally aware!

Mexican family run restaurant. I live fairly near the border.

All the bloody time. If I wanted to go really far back, I could mention slavery. But somewhat closer to the present day, say, Vietnam? America is incredibly arrogant. Remember Freedom Fries?

How is that ignoring a culture?

Furthermore, the only reason you use the imperial system is because you were colonised by the british when they still used the imperial system. That's not taking stuff from other countries, that's initial conditions.

I'm pretty sure we had to be a country to declare a national measurement system.

It is if your different minimum wage means that people can work two jobs and still be under the poverty line. America has the sharpest division between rich and poor of any developed country in the world. You have the most unequal division of wealth in the developed world. It's nothing to do with free market economics, and has everything to do with privilege. If your parents can afford to put you through school and college, and get you started on having a nice business, you're fine. Otherwise, it's a struggle.


That's what makes us strong, it drives our citizens to work. Plus, we have a huge middle class.


Also, dare I point out that England isn't actually socialist, too?

Except for the huge prescence of the Labour party since WW2 and the 40% income tax.

The topic of conversation is whether or not America is some sort of God amongst the men

That's an easy one. We have the best military, and the strongest economy. We must be doing alot of things much better than your countries.

Then STOP CALLING IT ENGLISH. This is the problem. It isn't 'easier' to learn if you make some spellings more phonetic, it just makes it different. And it certainly makes it NOT English.

Phonetic languages are wwwaaayyy easier to learn, ask any linguist - which you very obviously are not. So the Spanish spoken in South Smerica is not "Spanish" because it's even more different than the Spanish in Spain?

More seriously, I was satirically pointing out that you CAN removed 'useless extra letters that make no sense to use', but the result can be mildly cnfsng.

Your straw-man arguement fails completely. It makes the language much easier to pronounce and it certainly isn't the the degree that you're talking about.


Nobody deserves to live in squalor. NO-BOD-Y. Plus, in some circumstances, people need to work in these sorts of jobs. I'm a university student - I already study full time, so I need a casual job. I can't work much time each week. I would certainly find it difficult to support myself if I didn't still live with my parents. Trying to do something like that in America would be suicidal. Just because someone hasn't passed high school doesn't mean that they can be denied basic human rights, like the right ot shelter, or the right to have clean food and water, or other such things. Aren't you supposed to be the land of the free? The French called, they want their statue back.

If your parents are poor, it's difficult to get a decent education. It's difficult to get what is neccessary to climb the social ladder. And if you get unlucky - say, you get a nasty disease, or become a victim of the crime caused by poverty, you're pretty much screwed. It shouldn't take this much work to move from the lower ranks of society to the upper ranks. You shouldn't need to be a complete and utter workaholic to rise above the poverty line.

Poor people are still people, Worldweaver.




Yeah actually you damn well should need to be a workaholic, and you damn well should live in poverty if you're lazy. That's the fundamental difference between our countries, You guys are just lazy.
I'd like to add that everyone in america started with nothing. From the persecuted colonists who had to build everything from nothing, to the immigrants that cross into our country every day.

And our lives are much better because of it.


Oh, and I'd also like to add that America has the highest average wage of any country in the world.
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Actually home phone
... My god, you disturb me.

Yeah actually you damn well should need to be a workaholic, and you damn well should live in poverty if you're lazy. That's the fundamental difference between our countries, You guys are just lazy.

1 - There are grey bits between 'workaholic' and 'lazy'.
2 - Nobody should have to be a 'workaholic', by which I mean 'someone who works ridiculously long hours'
3 - The fundamental difference between our countries is that we don't have 50% of our wealth owned by the top 1% of the country. That sort of split is ridiculous.
4 - How can you live in a country that widely proclaims itself to be free and democratic, and yet not give a screw about human rights? Once again - the French called, they want their statue back.
1 - There are grey bits between 'workaholic' and 'lazy'.

Sure.

2 - Nobody should have to be a 'workaholic', by which I mean 'someone who works ridiculously long hours'

No, never be passionate about getting a better life, never help the country and never be competitive. Because, hell if you wait long enough, they'll be enough of you that the government will support you.

3 - The fundamental difference between our countries is that we don't have 50% of our wealth owned by the top 1% of the country. That sort of split is ridiculous.

So the best shouldn't get any money, because poor slobs deserve a bigger paycheck.

4 - How can you live in a country that widely proclaims itself to be free and democratic, and yet not give a screw about human rights?


Human rights? This is a difference in a few dollars of minimum wage.
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