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Since I learned DM I've been looking for another language I could learn. Its all because of BYOND's 10 FPS and tile based limitations. I'm looking for full freedom.

I see C++ and Actionscript as options, but I wanna know if there is anything else, giving details on what you use to code, compatibility with game making, and how easy it is to learn.
VC++ is better for game making then C++
If you want something easy to work your way up on, python with pygame is a great option. Far more powerful than BYOND, but still rather easy. Problem is, your really getting into true game development with it, so expect to have to learn a lot to get a game running, and networking is another big thing. You're unlikely to find anything to compares to BYOND in ease of making a game.
In response to Danial.Beta
Danial.Beta wrote:
If you want something easy to work your way up on, python with pygame is a great option. Far more powerful than BYOND, but still rather easy. Problem is, your really getting into true game development with it, so expect to have to learn a lot to get a game running, and networking is another big thing. You're unlikely to find anything to compares to BYOND in ease of making a game.


BlitzMax.

Although the BlitzBasic langauges do teach you bad programming habits it's good enough & a whole lot easier than Byond to create a game.
In response to Danial.Beta
Danial.Beta wrote:
You're unlikely to find anything to compares to BYOND in ease of making a game.

I've used stuff from Clickteam for 3 years, which provides game creation which you could pretty much rip out your keyboard and still be able to make something interesting. I find it not as flexible as a programming language though.

www.clickteam.com

And Stencyl sounds promising. Around about the same level as Clickteam products.. but better. And for free. So I don't have to fork out 200 quid. Shame it isn't out yet.

www.stencyl.com


So... I think I kinda proved you wrong there.
In response to LilMain
Blitmax is not easier to make games for then Byond is, especially if you want to make a multiplayer game. It does not have automatic multiplayer support like byond does, so you have to write it yourself with socket programming.
I've actually decided to lay off other languages for now...

The problem is that I need a GUI that compares to BYOND's DM window. A GUI atleast. I can't access anything like either with Python... I know there is some out there, but I can't get to them.

Damn your faulty website, Wxpython.
If you think C++ will be a bit too involving, try out Actionscript.
I know a lot of people think flash is pretty rubbish but the latest version of actionscript (AS3) is really, really lush (in my opinion) - pretty much java without the sucky bits.

It's about as hard to use as DM (actually a little more complex- it's strongly typed, for instance) but gives you more freedom in terms of graphics, FPS and so on. Obviously it's about a billion times harder to make a multiplayer online game with it though, but I'm working on that. =P