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Well, I just realized this now when one of my friends turned into a Narutard last night after he found Naruto on the TV. Hasn't anyone realized how people can get drawn into the anime so easily? I mean, it's just odd. You may call me stupid for doing this, but all day today I conducted an experiment with random anime shows ranging from Naruto to Gundam Seed Destiny. I have come up with a hypothesis.

You know the opening songs to these odd anime shows, correct? How all these songs just sound cool but you don't understand a blasted word the singer is saying? Well, I have come up with a theory that Narutards actually got drawn into the show "Naruto" after watching the hypnotizing opening songs. It sounds cool if you don't understand it. It sounded cool for me, maybe for not the other people around BYOND. Who's with me on the idea that Narutards actually got hypnotized? It seems far too idiotic for someone to fall for a not-so logical show that doesn't make too much sense with all the floating leaf concentration rubbish.
Cowboy Bebop averts this by having an awesome opening that's a jazz song, with only one line of lyrics, in English.
Wolfdude5 wrote:
Who's with me on the idea that Narutards actually got hypnotized?

Lol at your theory. ;)
And, they're just songs, like any regular songs (do you tend to get hypnotized by songs?). The fact they're not in English doesn't mean they've inherent magical hypnotizing capabilities... And, people wouldn't sit through 25 minutes just because they like the song in the first minute, naturally you could even download/buy the song/album if you like it so much, etc, no need to watch the show for that.

It seems far too idiotic for someone to fall for a not-so logical show that doesn't make too much sense with all the floating leaf concentration rubbish.

Since when do shows need to be realistic? (rhetorical question, they do not) At any case, it naturally varies by taste. You're clearly not in the position and just pre-judging the series if you think what you've said is the main point of it, though. Try watching more episodes first, and don't prejudice based on the BYOND Anime community, either. That's just prejudiced-ly unfair. =D
In response to Kaioken
I have any sorry about the unlogical part. I'm blowing off steam because I was playing some random Naruto game off of the Anime section and I got banned for using the guy's name from the show. :\ and yes I got hypnotized once by listening to one song, but I don't really think you guys want to know what one was it.


EDIT: I also just woke up and just realized that the Anime section had 90% Naruto rips so that's also why I'm stating this sort of thing. No joke about me getting hypnotized though.
In response to Wolfdude5
Wolfdude5 wrote:
I have any sorry about the unlogical part.

You don't have to be sorry, I don't even care if you like the show or not. =P Just felt your incorrect point of view needed to be corrected.

and yes I got hypnotized once by listening to one song, but I don't really think you guys want to know what one was it.

Right, I watched/listened to all of those songs and many other Japanese songs, and I... didn't get your experience. Maybe you're falsely calling "I liked the song so I continued to watch/listen" being hypnotized?
In response to Kaioken
Kaioken wrote:
Wolfdude5 wrote:
I have any sorry about the unlogical part.

You don't have to be sorry, I don't even care if you like the show or not. =P Just felt your incorrect point of view needed to be corrected.

and yes I got hypnotized once by listening to one song, but I don't really think you guys want to know what one was it.

Right, I watched/listened to all of those songs and many other Japanese songs, and I... didn't get your experience. Maybe you're falsely calling "I liked the song so I continued to watch/listen" being hypnotized?


Perhaps - or there's the chance I'm just crazy.
Well with your word quote on quote Narutard. (sorry my quotation marks are not working for some reason.) If your friend is a narutard what would you call your self a bleach head or bleachtard. Also how logical is bleach compared to naruto on the scales i say it ranks up there in the same stuff your talking about.

Not trying to argue i just found it interesting after i seen this

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an interesting hypothesis, ive always found it interesting how people love japanese. In naruto for instance, if i was to change the names of the techniques to the actual english definitions, aka what the japanese watchers of the show hear, then people get mad at me :(. It does sound lame when instead of kage bunshin no jutsu you say shadow clone technique, and it does sound less interesting when Katon,Goukakyuu No Jutsu becomes Fire element grand fireball technique.

There is mystery in not understanding something, but for me it certainly wasnt the intro that drew me into the show since im more a fan of manga than filler filled anime.
In response to DeathWishProductions
DeathWishProductions wrote:
Well with your word quote on quote Narutard. (sorry my quotation marks are not working for some reason.) If your friend is a narutard what would you call your self a bleach head or bleachtard. Also how logical is bleach compared to naruto on the scales i say it ranks up there in the same stuff your talking about.


I call Narutards "Narutards" because of one reason. You see, people call it "Naruto". People call Bleach "Bleach". Naruto ... take out the "o" and replace it with ard. Narut-ard. All you do is take out the o and put in the ard. However, for Bleach I do not know what they call it. It is probably Bleachtard, but I've heard about the one meaning people called Bleach maniacs, althought I am not quite sure.
In response to Masterdan
Masterdan wrote:
an interesting hypothesis, ive always found it interesting how people love japanese. In naruto for instance, if i was to change the names of the techniques to the actual english definitions, aka what the japanese watchers of the show hear, then people get mad at me :(. It does sound lame when instead of kage bunshin no jutsu you say shadow clone technique, and it does sound less interesting when Katon,Goukakyuu No Jutsu becomes Fire element grand fireball technique.

There is mystery in not understanding something, but for me it certainly wasnt the intro that drew me into the show since im more a fan of manga than filler filled anime.


I guess the reason I get hypnotized by anime is because I don't understand a thing they're saying yet it sounds to cool. I liked the japense version of Naruto but I didn't like the English one. You're right about th shadow Clone tehniqu part and with the katon thing.
Animes like The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya or Spice & Wolf have a much better opening (not to mention everything else) than Naruto, but are not as popular. However, your theory may be correct, because those animes are my favorite. >_>
Wow, you're so off base it's hysterical. Anyways, on to my dissection of your pseudo-psychology. A song simply cannot hypnotize someone, unless it's lyrics simply imply so. Secondly, hypnotists can only hypnotize the willing, so no this song is not hypnotizing anyone. However, a demonstration of a culture different from your own in a "cool" light? That could get people to get hooked. Honestly, who wouldn't want near God-like powers? It's similar to Sci-Fi, marvel comics, and numerous other things. People like to associate with these "cool" characters, and probably secretly or openly fantasize about being one of them. However, this is not some new revolutionary idea, no one would want to watch T.V. about a normal person leading an uneventful life, heck no! The United States of Amnesia wants to watch some guy teleporting around throwing brutal weapons at other guys who possess equally cool abilities. In conclusion, your "hypothesis" has no basis, is illogical, and has no support.
In response to Mr.Tophat
Your response doesn't have any support either. No one here has provided any evidence that proves or disproves the possibility of hypnotic songs in anime shows. This whole debate is silly, but I don't think the OP intended it to be serious.
In response to Masterdan
Masterdan wrote:
an interesting hypothesis, ive always found it interesting how people love japanese. In naruto for instance, if i was to change the names of the techniques to the actual english definitions, aka what the japanese watchers of the show hear, then people get mad at me :(. It does sound lame when instead of kage bunshin no jutsu you say shadow clone technique, and it does sound less interesting when Katon,Goukakyuu No Jutsu becomes Fire element grand fireball technique.

There is mystery in not understanding something, but for me it certainly wasnt the intro that drew me into the show since im more a fan of manga than filler filled anime.


Its better written on paper in english than in japanese.

I dislike all the japanese in a list of abilities when it could be much easier to know what they are in english. Even with screenshot.
In response to Mr.Tophat
I was hoping you guys knew I was joking.
In response to Masterdan
Masterdan wrote:
In naruto for instance, if i was to change the names of the techniques to the actual english definitions, aka what the japanese watchers of the show hear, then people get mad at me :(. It does sound lame when instead of kage bunshin no jutsu you say shadow clone technique, and it does sound less interesting when Katon,Goukakyuu No Jutsu becomes Fire element grand fireball technique.

I like the English ones better, myself. In the original language, I'd have to restrain myself from laughing. In the latter case, it has a sort of mystical air... although still ludicrous. ;-)
In response to Masterdan
Actually, the names of techniques sound totally stupid in English. Most places incorrectly translate them.
An example is the one you used, Kage Bunshin no Jutsu.
Kage is shadow
Bunshin is dividing or branching.
Jutsu is skill or technique
The no is possessive, meaning Jutsu is belonging to Bunshin. Kage Bunshin no Jutsu literally translates into The Shadow Dividings Skill (as in the Shadow Dividing has a skill).
Or how about Sharingan? Translates into THE COPY COLOUR ALCOVE FOR AN IMAGE!!!

The reason why Japanese to English translations always suck is because if the translators didn't improvise everything would sound so stupid. Most English names skills are very inaccurately named due to the way the differences between Japanese and English work.

But even if English sounding names are totally inaccurate, they still sound better than most Japanese names.


Anyway, if anime music and especially anime opening songs are what make people addicted to anime then... Why the hell are so many people addicted to Naruto? It has some of the worse anime opening songs I have ever heard, EVER.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FK0AQPsaZms That song in particular is so bad. It sounds like some really bad Japanese imitation of 70s music... Only it totally sucks.

That and most people have never even heard of all the anime with good opening songs :[

I have also probably been watching anime for longer than most people here and definately seen more than most people here (I have also watched every single Naruto episode, film and read the entire manga). Despite the fact that I have probably seen tens, if not hundreds of thousands of anime openings I am not addicted to anime and don't act like some totally retarded anime fan.
In response to The Magic Man
I disagree with your translation, by merit that a literal translation is an incorrect translation. When translating, one has to reinterpret the message as closely as the original language intended, because translation is intended to express ideas, not to express words.

Hence, "Shadow Clone Technique" is a much better translation than "The Shadow Dividing's Skill".

Also relevant is that "no" is possessive, but can translate as either "belonging to" or just "of". So your "literal" translation could also be expressed as "The Skill of Shadow Dividing" and be correct.
In response to Silicon Viking
First off he totally does, if you go on to read in posts further down the thread, it goes on to claim that he actually thinks he's crazy. Secondly, I could submit psychological papers that have actual case studies surrounding hypnotizing and how his claims of this are entirely irrelevant. If you really want me to dig some up, I will. Otherwise, kindly bugger off.
In response to Mr.Tophat
Although i hate most of the Naruto Opening themes, there is like, one that i don't mind.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_2GHK4KA6Ec

This one is kind of bad

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lPDk8twikX0

Then again, it has to do with your personal tastes.
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