Ham Doctor wrote:

They threw out backwards compatibility a long time ago. Even before the Slim Line PS3, that isn't saving them any money and if you believe so, you are a fool.

If you want to deny facts, then that's your problem. Just don't try to spread your ignorance around.

The fact that older 160GB models that support backwards compatibility is selling for more and better then newer models of the system is just a proving point that it's a feature people wanted.

What fact?

1. They are more expensive, yes; the reason is that they included hardware-based compatibility which required more and more expensive hardware and which drove the manufacturing price up much higher. Are you aware that, even when the PS3 was first launched, selling at these "ridiculous" selling prices, they were selling for less than it cost to make it. When a game console is launched, they are always sold at a loss, and depend on revenue from other channels---such as software licensing---to compensate for that.
2. The older models are not selling better than the newer ones. In case you haven't been following, the PS3 Slim's sales are tremendous. So much so, in fact, that they might run out of stock.

You need to stop claiming false beliefs you hold to be fact. Do research before you say things and don't say "this is fact" when it's based on an opinion you hold that, more likely than not, does not represent factual information.

everyone else did it without breaking the bank. Stop giving sony excuses.

Jeff8500 wrote:

Did you know Blu Ray lasers cost much more than normal lasers? That's another reason why.

You can buy the whole laser assembly on-line for $40. That still doesn't seem like very much.

Hiro the Dragon King wrote:

You can buy the whole laser assembly on-line for $40. That still doesn't seem like very much.

What about in 2006 when the PS3 came out and Blu-Ray had just been invented? I'm also happy to point out that a simple laser does not make up a game system. It doesn't account for the processor(s)---which PS3 also invests heavily in---hard drives, accessories, etc. At the time of launch, the Blu-Ray drive and the processor together were estimated to cost around $580 alone.

The current model, the PS3 slim, is still being sold at a loss. According to an analyst from Japan's Daiwa Institute, the manufacturing cost of the Slim should be around 40,000 yen, or ~$450. Whether those figures are accurate or not I'll leave to debate, but SCE's own Kazuo Hirai says that they are selling at a loss for sure, in terms of hardware. The profit is made when hardware sales turn into software sales; once people have your system, they'll buy your system's game.

Kuraudo wrote:

Hiro the Dragon King wrote:

You can buy the whole laser assembly on-line for $40. That still doesn't seem like very much.

What about in 2006 when the PS3 came out and Blu-Ray had just been invented? I'm also happy to point out that a simple laser does not make up a game system. It doesn't account for the processor(s)---which PS3 also invests heavily in---hard drives, accessories, etc. At the time of launch, the Blu-Ray drive and the processor together were estimated to cost around $580 alone.

The current model, the PS3 slim, is still being sold at a loss. According to an analyst from Japan's Daiwa Institute, the manufacturing cost of the Slim should be around 40,000 yen, or ~$450. Whether those figures are accurate or not I'll leave to debate, but SCE's own Kazuo Hirai says that they are selling at a loss for sure, in terms of hardware. The profit is made when hardware sales turn into software sales; once people have your system, they'll buy your system's game.

Thank you for the long winded post that didn't really have anything to do with my post.

Jeff8500 mentioned that the laser cost a lot more. I posted that it wasn't that much more expensive. Albeit, that post was a little naive of me, considering that they probably cost a lot more when the PS3 was released, that much is true. However, it seems that you wanted to flex your research muscle and did so against mine. I honestly don't care as my girl likes my "other" qualities.

It is true that the PS3 needs it's software sales, but if the PS3 doesn't keep itself up on the software end, it will suffer the same fate as the Dreamcast.

Haha your such a fan boy.

Hiro the Dragon King wrote:

Sorry for the typo. It was supposed to say $50. I'm not sure of the site anymore, it's been a while since I've heard of it.

You can find cheap crap anywhere. There's an especially large market for Chinese knock-offs for anything from mobile phones to, yes, Blu-Ray drives. You get what you pay for.

Vic Rattlehead wrote:

Blu-Ray is retarded to consider as a "selling" point.

lol seems like a pretty good selling point to me. Blu-ray DVDs can hold 10x as much info as a regular DVD. That should mean 10x as much game content/quality.

Hiro the Dragon King wrote:

True, but I, speaking only for myself, would rather have a three or four disc game than a $600 system.

Have they released any multi-disk games this gen o.O and its only 300 =P

ITT: Falacy being a Sony fanboy.
And the PS3 was 600$ when it first came out, only just recently did it drop to below 300$.

The PS3 has no good games that are exclusives.