Tom wrote:

Ernesto5432 wrote:

Ter13 wrote:

I don't see this taking so much "re-learning", as growing up and learning a bit of HTML, Javascript, and CSS type stuff that you would otherwise be learning off-site anyway.

I just mean it's a big step to going back to the basics - again.

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. If you mean whether we plan to support client-server games (like Incursion, where you would always host through DS), then that isn't in the plans at the moment, but I don't think it's a huge deal since there is really no reason you can't just use DD for that (it's way more efficient anyway due to lack of multithreading on the client-server atm). I suspect at some point we will have to tackle this since people are surely going to want to get their games onto Steam and not be limited to single-player. We just need to ensure that it doesn't cut into our revenue stream through the ads.. so maybe it'd have to be a one-off fee to do this kind of thing.

If you are just asking about the interface, you can continue to use the existing system for now. Some stuff isn't supported right now (like the grid control) but anyone can port those controls for us. A basic interface should be really easy to do in HTML though.

What I was trying to ask was whether or not the current array of games would continued to be supported, or is byond moving entirely to web-based games.

Ernesto5432 wrote:

Tom wrote:

Ernesto5432 wrote:

Ter13 wrote:

I don't see this taking so much "re-learning", as growing up and learning a bit of HTML, Javascript, and CSS type stuff that you would otherwise be learning off-site anyway.

I just mean it's a big step to going back to the basics - again.

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. If you mean whether we plan to support client-server games (like Incursion, where you would always host through DS), then that isn't in the plans at the moment, but I don't think it's a huge deal since there is really no reason you can't just use DD for that (it's way more efficient anyway due to lack of multithreading on the client-server atm). I suspect at some point we will have to tackle this since people are surely going to want to get their games onto Steam and not be limited to single-player. We just need to ensure that it doesn't cut into our revenue stream through the ads.. so maybe it'd have to be a one-off fee to do this kind of thing.

If you are just asking about the interface, you can continue to use the existing system for now. Some stuff isn't supported right now (like the grid control) but anyone can port those controls for us. A basic interface should be really easy to do in HTML though.

What I was trying to ask was whether or not the current array of games would continued to be supported, or is byond moving entirely to web-based games.

BYOND is not changing anything that currently exists, except for adding new features that will allow current games to expand and thrive.

Ernesto5432 wrote:

Tom wrote:

Ernesto5432 wrote:

Ter13 wrote:

I don't see this taking so much "re-learning", as growing up and learning a bit of HTML, Javascript, and CSS type stuff that you would otherwise be learning off-site anyway.

I just mean it's a big step to going back to the basics - again.

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. If you mean whether we plan to support client-server games (like Incursion, where you would always host through DS), then that isn't in the plans at the moment, but I don't think it's a huge deal since there is really no reason you can't just use DD for that (it's way more efficient anyway due to lack of multithreading on the client-server atm). I suspect at some point we will have to tackle this since people are surely going to want to get their games onto Steam and not be limited to single-player. We just need to ensure that it doesn't cut into our revenue stream through the ads.. so maybe it'd have to be a one-off fee to do this kind of thing.

If you are just asking about the interface, you can continue to use the existing system for now. Some stuff isn't supported right now (like the grid control) but anyone can port those controls for us. A basic interface should be really easy to do in HTML though.

What I was trying to ask was whether or not the current array of games would continued to be supported, or is byond moving entirely to web-based games.

It's just a client port. You don't have to jump through any hoops to differentiate a web-based game. Simply put, any multi-player BYOND game that can be hosted through the Seeker or Dream Daemon will run in the new client, provided it's an incoming connection. Single-player games will be handled later via an HTML-5 enabled executable.

This update doesn't change how making your BYOND game works.

Indeed.

This is awesome. Very excited...

I have a question though: if a project's UI is designed on the browser-side, using the new javascript options that come with the HTML5 release... will it be compatible outside of the browser? Could it still be played as a standalone install or would you need to use the web?

Writing A New One wrote:

This is awesome. Very excited...

I have a question though: if a project's UI is designed on the browser-side, using the new javascript options that come with the HTML5 release... will it be compatible outside of the browser? Could it still be played as a standalone install or would you need to use the web?

We will provide a standalone system that will simply be the server embedded in the backend and a CEF browser for the front-end. The primary intent is to support testing from the compiler as well as single-player games. For multi-player games, I'd think most people would rather use the web-option instead of having to download an EXE, with the main exception being games that want to distribute themselves over networks like Steam. So we'll have to work with those, specifically (in Steam's case we have to anyway in order to provide the Steam connection support). I'm not sure if this answered your question.

Fucking beautiful.

I am going to get that cash money setting up classified ads to design peoples web interfaces.

Jk no one on BYOND really pays for services.

Joejoe13 wrote:

So will we be able to use our old way of coding and it still work the same or will we have to learn another coding language and all the games start over?

If you can't wrap your head around the post, you're all gucci mane. The only change is that you need to know some HTML and Javascript, CSS too. Or I guess you could be lazy and bootstrap your UI.... BUT this is only if you want to make a web compatible game.

Nice! Would love to see Byond become succesful again. Keep up the wonderful work folks.