BYOND Forums - Design Philosophy - KISS

Jun 8 2001, 5:30 am In response to Leftley
LexyBitch	Leftley, your original point was valid, but I have to say you're beating a dead horse... and not very well. Basically, you're trying to prevent anyone from saying, "People do stupid things in order to be cool," with the reasoning that "stupid things aren't cool." Well, maybe so, but that isn't the point... the point is that people do the stupid things because they think they're cool.

Jun 8 2001, 8:06 am

In response to LexyBitch

jobe

i think the thread has changed from pointless features to pointlessly trying to explain something to fire king... oh heh... it was just a joke...

On 6/8/01 7:35 am LexyBitch wrote:

"I was just using that as an example, actually. Banking was the first thing that came to mind. =)"

BANKING was the first thing that came to mind, he said. BANKING. Not Magic Battle. BANKING was the "that" in "I was just using that as an example," not Magic Battle. If you look at Spuzzum's posts, he never mentions your game. Never. Ever. The name doesn't come up.

When someone says "I was just using that as an example, it was the first thing that came to mind," it means, "There's no particular reason I picked this, so please don't think I'm trying to say something about any particular real-life situation."

Final note, if someone says, "It isn't cool when people do (action X)," and you haven't done (action X), then don't assume the person is talking about you. This is a thread about pointless features. If Magic Battle's banking system has a point, then this thread obviously wasn't about Magic Battle.

On 6/8/01 7:29 am FIREking wrote:

well, i wish i could understand you guys
cuz it seems that a lot of the time i dont,
maybe im just a big f*cking stupid peice of sh*t or something
but i dont get it

oh well, ill learn one of these days,
plus, spuzzum did mention my game, in a nasty way i though,
he said he used it for an example, and this post is about making features that dont matter to your game, and using magic battle for an example means he is saying it has a pointless feature,
and the only pointless feature in magic battle is the horses, not the banking

so what the heck does he mean when he says using magic battle for an example

*puzzled*
fireking

Jun 8 2001, 8:12 am

In response to Spuzzum

jobe

On 6/7/01 4:05 pm Spuzzum wrote:

as for magic battle final, it did need a banking system, players were dying, and losing gold, and losing there characters, if they had put there stuff in the bank before dying, then they could now happily go back and get the things they lost, at least i hope it worked that way, never heard any complaints

I was just using that as an example, actually. Banking was the first thing that came to mind. =)

No similarities were intentional. This offer not valid in Hawaii and Puerto Rico. Non-refundable. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

* Spuzzum the Ninja must now learn the ancient art of Kung Fu Disclaimers.

i can help you with the disclaimers... but mine are not Kung Fu... my disclaimers are from the third order oh the Han (witch was previosly nameless exept for third order of the Han..)

Jun 8 2001, 11:40 am

In response to Leftley

Spuzzum

Spuzzum said that you should add features that add "meaning", not just "coolness." I'm a bit lost on this, because I've never found a game that was cool that didn't have a proportionate amount of pointfulness. My point here is that, if you add a meaningful addition to gameplay, then it's going to make your game cooler; and if you do something that makes your game cooler, then you've added something meaningful. What Spuzzum is talking about is if you add a completely pointless feature out of what amounts to developer peer pressure.

I guess my statement was rather ambiguous, but fortunately you caught my drift.

How Leftley interpreted it is exactly what I meant...

Jun 8 2001, 11:42 am In response to FIREking
Spuzzum	ps.or maybe you mean something else........ Yes, I did. If I had said "Flying Monkeys", the analogy would have still remained the same. Sigh, English is shamefully ambiguous at times. Yeesh, don't overreact so much. =\|

Jun 8 2001, 11:44 am In response to jobe
Spuzzum	i think the thread has changed from pointless features to pointlessly trying to explain something to fire king... oh heh... it was just a joke... Too cruel! =)

Jun 8 2001, 11:46 am

In response to LexyBitch

Spuzzum

On 6/8/01 8:30 am LexyBitch wrote:

Leftley, your original point was valid, but I have to say you're beating a dead horse... and not very well. Basically, you're trying to prevent anyone from saying, "People do stupid things in order to be cool," with the reasoning that "stupid things aren't cool." Well, maybe so, but that isn't the point... the point is that people do the stupid things because they think they're cool.

One of the main reasons I'm not "cool" among my peers at school.

* Spuzzum doesn't care. He pulls out a katana. Who's cool now, buddy?!

Jun 8 2001, 12:07 pm In response to Spuzzum
Leftley	I guess my statement was rather ambiguous, but fortunately you caught my drift. Nah, I just like bantering semantics pointlessly. Or rather, I like bantering semantics with a lack of pointfulness.

Jun 8 2001, 2:47 pm In response to Leftley
jobe	On 6/8/01 3:07 pm Leftley wrote: I guess my statement was rather ambiguous, but fortunately you caught my drift. Nah, I just like bantering semantics pointlessly. Or rather, I like bantering semantics with a lack of pointfulness. are you sure you dont write for monty pithon? you have that oddness about your humor...

Jun 8 2001, 2:53 pm In response to jobe
Leftley	are you sure you dont write for monty pithon? you have that oddness about your humor... Significantly, the vast majority of Monty Python's material was made before I was born. I think that lowers the odds of me having been a writer for them down to at least less than a 50-50 shot, right off the bat.

Jun 8 2001, 7:41 pm In response to Leftley
Spuzzum	Significantly, the vast majority of Monty Python's material was made before I was born. I think that lowers the odds of me having been a writer for them down to at least less than a 50-50 shot, right off the bat. Ha! ...Uh... 'Nuff said.