i wonder if this is already posibble
i believe that if the byond language was really flexible, they should have a way to define your own types of things.
suchs as having an obj, but also having another type of thing in the world, that all things created like /potatoe, would have the same astrobutes, but could be changes when it is calld for. this would make the language more flexible, and posabably help many games be produced faster, or better. having this function would help me out a bit, i know that.
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 Aug 20 2001, 9:39 am
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Nebathemonk wrote:
i wonder if this is already posibble obj Potatoe var/HP = 50 icon = 'Potatoes.dmi' LittlePotato icon_state = "LittleOne" MediumPotato icon_state = "MediumOne" etc etc. Now, anything thats under obj/Potatoe inherets its vars, etc. Want to change it? LittlePotatoe HP = 20 Now u changed LittlePotatoes HP var, anything else under Potatoe still has 50, unless its defined otherwise like there. If you ant to change the 50 hp, just change it under Potatoe. Not quite sure if im getting what you mean or you just didnt know this | |
Skysaw wrote:
Nebathemonk wrote:what's so hard to read? I can read it just fine, although the 2nd post of this thread answered it :) | |
Lord of Water wrote:
Nah, I would like to be able to do this: Actually you can.... But what you probably want is: mob playerturf grassetc.... But you can always define new datums. Say you wanted a futz for example. No problem. Just do it like any other section: futz varAdditionally it will share all properties inherent to all datum objects. See DATUM, ATOM in the docs for better explanations. -James | |
JonSnow13 wrote:
what's so hard to read? I can read it just fine, although the 2nd post of this thread answered it :) This is hard to read: i believe that if the byond language was really flexible, they should have a way to define your own types of things. suchs as having an obj, but also having another type of thing in the world, that all things created like /potatoe, would have the same astrobutes, but could be changes when it is calld for. I mean, is this in English? | |
Skysaw wrote:
JonSnow13 wrote: i believe that if the byond language was really flexible, they should have a way to define your own types of things. suchs as having an obj, but also having another type of thing in the world, that all things created like /potatoe, would have the same astrobutes, but could be changes when it is calld for. I mean, is this in English? It's extremely easy to read. In fact, just glancing at it, I can see three or four ways it could be read. A so-called "well constructed" sentence or paragraph, on the other hand, would only have one way obvious interpretation, and thus would require more conscious effort to make sense of. Of course, in the latter case, three different people reading the same sentence would be more likely to agree on what they had just read, and their conclusion would be more likely to agree with the writer's intent... but really, what's a little thing like clarity compared to ease of reading? | |
LexyBitch wrote:
Skysaw wrote: i believe that if the byond language was really flexible, they should have a way to define your own types of things. suchs as having an obj, but also having another type of thing in the world, that all things created like /potatoe, would have the same astrobutes, but could be changes when it is calld for. I mean, is this in English? ya well, I think Lexy's are harder to read :D j/k... anyways it's computer talking, people online (like me) probably talk just as fast as they do in RL, so people just type what they think up real fast, and you get to put it together... but after awhile you learn to :D | |
Still, though, it's nice to be able to do some things right. For example, I generally capitalize the right letters in a sentance.
Note that I said "generally", because we all make mistakes. Still, it's nice to try not to. | |
Quick question that I'm too lazy to go check:
Can datums exist on the map? If they have icons will they show in a statpanel? ie. Can they be used to mimic ATOMs? What about atom/foo? Can I throw some foo on the map? Note: I can't see a reason to need this, really. Technically, obj and mob are redundant, but I could see it leading to more clean code. -AbyssDragon | |
Can datums exist on the map? If they have icons will they show in a statpanel? I'm pretty sure they can't exist on the map, because they don't have a loc var (and I doubt simply adding a loc var would make them show up). Don't know about the statpanel part, but I'd guess not. | |
Just seems incomplete that we can't mimic the function of pre-built atoms.
Granted, I can't think of a reason I'd want to, but still... -AbyssDragon | |
Just seems incomplete that we can't mimic the function of pre-built atoms. Offhand, I can't think of a reason you'd want to either. :) Fortunately, the way BYOND handles it is probably the ideal solution. In a language like Java, you'd most likely end up implementing BYOND-style mapping by having your atomic objects implement a "mappable" interface. [1] In DM, however, this "mappable" interface is implicitly built into the /atom hierarchy. This is a good thing, not only for all those people who encounter BYOND as their first programming experience, but also for all those people who like having one less hassle to deal with! [1] (Though this wouldn't be the only way to do it--you could, for instance, give every object a var that could point to a second object that would keep track of mapping-related stuff... that might get kind of clunky for large worlds.) | |
I'm having a little trouble understanding what you're talking about, since first sentence of second paragraph is all but unreadable. But it sounds like you're describing BYOND as it currently exists.
Are you having trouble defining your own types of "things?" Or making objects whose attributes change?
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