In response to DivineO'peanut
I diden't post that to start an argument i was just trying to say my side i diden't wish to offend anyone and at least my reply was not "STFU n00b" i am very mature for my age. Please would give give a reason why you said i would be in the minus's it would interest me to hear why.
In response to Yorae
It doesnt make you less of a man... thats just... weird... Yeah disturbing is the correct word.
In response to Silent Sage
Silent Sage wrote:
So suddenly because he likes a certain anime show he can't be a fully grown man?

actually its just his collection is larger then I have imagined...I'm notnsaying he can't be fully grown. Just that its a little disturbing
In response to Shlaklava
I was only really talking about myself for bedsheets and maybe a stargate jacket but i don't mean a collection like SSGX.
In response to Yorae
Yorae wrote:
he created the only unqiue DB game on byond


Um...no. DragonBall Epic Online was the second DragonBall type game on BYOND. If you are curious, DBZ Spar was the first. DragonBall Epic Online is still around, but it is down because the creators are updating the game. It may take a few months or maybe a year to finish. This game is amazing. You cannot compare it to DBTC though because these two games even though based on one show, are completely different from each other. I love both DBEO and DBTC.
In response to Shlaklava
Shlaklava wrote:
actually its just his collection is larger then I have imagined...I'm notnsaying he can't be fully grown. Just that its a little disturbing

Please stop complaining about a 'fully grown man' being a fan of some cartoon. It is not disturbing.
In response to Shlaklava
Why? Because a grown, married man has interests, and is not ashamed of them?

I have a PS2, an XBox, a GameCube, a computer, about 300 videogames, 150+ DVDs, and about 25 paintings that I made myself sitting up in my room.

Nobody'd mess with that, would they? I'll tell you why: Because these are "more common" collections. Whatever he's into is his money to spend. The fact that his wife doesn't force him to burn it all, is actually very much an indicator that he married a not only beautiful(She really is, man, good catch!), but understanding and supportive woman.

My wife doesn't allow our daughter into my office, because of some of the paintings and sketches that are up. She says my art-style is just not suitable for children, something about nightmares... Well, that's not surprising, I typically draw scenes from the nightmares I've been having since I was a child. Most of these things are pretty disturbing, and my wife, though she likes my art, and typically is very supportive of it.

Though, I do have this one painting of two faceless human-like creatures that are joined at the waist and chest by strands of skin, strangling each other with their three fingered hands... That one, she doesn't understand, nor would she EVER let my mother-in-law or daughter see... It's a pretty messed up bit of artwork.

Anyway, whatever the case, that's HIS life. And whoever says that a man has to act like an "adult" upon marriage, is a moron. Truly, the 1950s is over, it's time to grow past these perfect, communist visions of society, don't you think?
In response to Ter13
Ter13 wrote:
My wife doesn't allow our daughter into my office

That has to be the strangest way to back up one's argument.
I think you just won the "who is most disturbed guy ever" award. =p
In response to Elation
Heh, I knew what I said.

I'm not saying I'm disturbed, but I was backing him up with a specific argument.

Look at it this way: His interests aren't "mainstream", but they aren't too far out there. Now, while my interests are considered "mainstream", being an artist, they are a little bit past the line of "normal".

What I was basically pointing out, is that the interest itself doesn't matter at all, when it comes to strange. Most people who saw some of my more disturbing paintings would think I was kind of sadistic, and cruel.

Most people know this isn't true. I'm a very gentle person in most situations. It's just that I grew up in a household with a lot of paintings of nude women, demonic figures, and fantasy paintings. As well as a Jim Henson sculptures by the name of "Geegunk", who was a goblin-like character in a cage... He looked VERY real to a five-year-old, and believe me, made me think twice about waking past my mother's office in the dark.

I grew up in this house, and grew up with a different view on nudity than most people, and a different view of "right and wrong" than others as well. I didn't grow up with the extremist opinion on artistic expression going too far, I didn't grow up with the view of nudity as wrong.

My daughter, being a one-year-old, is too young for my artwork. I don't want her to grow up with a skewed opinion on violence, or for that matter on anything else. I want to raise her to understand the difference between right and wrong, and I want to make her understand that art IS sacred, that it is an aspect of the creator. But, again, she is too young to understand those concepts as of yet. So, we're waiting until she's a teenager to teach her some of these concepts.

Disturbed? Nay I say!
In response to Ter13
Ter13 wrote:
The fact that his wife doesn't force him to burn it all, is actually very much an indicator that he married a not only beautiful(She really is, man, good catch!), but understanding and supportive woman.

Thanks!

And she definitely is (understanding and supportive)... I wouldn't have married her otherwise (the fact that she's far too good looking to have married a guy like me is just a bonus! lol)

Heck, in relation to the DBZ collection, she even bought a good number of those things for me (in fact, the bed sheets/comforter set were a present from her... I wasn't planning to cross that line)...lol

As for the rest of your comment: HEAR HEAR!

But as a note to those who seem so concerned over this:

Those pictures are now a couple of years old... I began that collection back in High School (when DBZ was first airing on American TV in the late 90s), and those pictures show it all crammed into my old bedroom in my parents' house, which is a room that's only about 12' by 12'... Yes, it's still a LOT of DBZ stuff, but it looks like more when it's packed into a relatively small space...

Since then, though, I've moved out (obviously), and all of it was packed up... It hasn't been out of the 4 or 5 rubbermaid boxes I put it in for nearly two years now... The only remnants that can be seen in the room with me right now are some stickers on the monitor, a mousepad, and a coffee mug that's being used as a pencil holder...

Not that I wouldn't put it all back up, mind you... I just haven't done so out of a combination of laziness and the fact that we're in an apartment currently, and I don't want to start sticking things all over the walls (that and the fact that I doubt this is going to be a permanent residence, and I don't want to go through the hassle of packing it all away again when/if we move)...lol

However, the day we buy a house, if it has a room I can turn into a "den" of sorts, then I'll be putting everything back on display...
In response to Ter13
**Clapping**

Well said!
In response to Pakbaum
Sorry for saying that is disturbing...It was very rude of me...

But to try to justify myself, it is very strange to see something like that IMO. Usually you don't see grown men watching or having much related to cartoons.
In response to Shlaklava
Get used to it, we're a generation raised by our mothers. The more america progresses, and the more it becomes an entertainment-influenced society, I believe it is going to become more and more common for grown men to do "boyish" things.
In response to Shlaklava
Shlaklava wrote:
But to try to justify myself, it is very strange to see something like that IMO. Usually you don't see grown men watching or having much related to cartoons.

Yeah, but, in Japan, those cartoons/animation/anime aren't always for kids. Yeah, some are, but a lot of it is prime time and pretty involved stuff with a main demographic that regularly includes or even targets adults. It's pretty common to see buisinessmen on the trains reading comic books and comics, models, and anime aren't considered just kids stuff by any means.
So, I'm not really surprised that some of the imported anime is getting fans among adults, as, in many cases, that's who they were geared towards.
I understand where you're coming from though. It can be stigma in the US (wrongly, IMO) and it'll take a while, if animation will ever be considered adult.

PS.Quite a collection there, SSGX!
In response to Cavern
DBEO was the first. Spar was the second. And there was an abortive attempt at making a Dragonball-like card game by Rainmaker which preceded both.
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