Very important about pirating copies of a GAME .. to Dantom

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Dec 29 2001, 8:01 pm (Edited on Dec 29 2001, 8:08 pm)
I just recently found out that pirated copies of my old Dragonball game DBGT SFC were recently distributed to muliple people against my will by a person who stole a copy. He did this because I couldnt find time to teach him how to make icons. (I offered 4 times before and he didnt want to learn then)

I did not wish for any of my game to be distributed. And I was not hacked for it, but i wish for some sort of punishment upon him.

-Ken

PS. His Key name is Vegetto590

**Wonders if ban from byond is possible, its people like that that ruin a good community**
Dec 29 2001, 8:07 pm
I agree. Although he is my friend, what he did was immature. He deserves punishment. Sorry Stephen.

-Rcet
Dec 29 2001, 8:25 pm
In response to Rcet
I dont think it is possible to ban him from BYOND, he could just get a new key
Dec 29 2001, 8:26 pm
In response to Pillsverry
You can ban an IP Address
Dec 29 2001, 9:05 pm
In response to SonVegitto
Your IP changes with every connection.
Dec 30 2001, 6:25 am
And now i have screen shots of a person he gave it to admitting it!
Dec 30 2001, 6:34 am
In response to Rcet
well, only one part does(yhat i know of), if you can ban all IPs that have
IE:
216.234.89.***(where * is any number)

then you could IP ban them i guess
Dec 30 2001, 7:07 am
In response to Pillsverry
SonVegitto. It is YOUR responsibility not to distribute the game, or you risk this happening. Mayby, if they havent already they need to post a public notice of this, because im seeing one of these threads every week from different people, accusing different people. If you dont want people to steal your game, dont give it to them. If you dont want people hacking your unix shell, dont give away the password except to people you explicitly trust and have known for a long time.

Mayby put a copyright disclaimer on your game, and threaten to sue the person violating the disclaimer. Usually threatning someone is enough.

Alathon
Dec 30 2001, 8:08 am
In response to Alathon
I know copies are already out because i have two people admitting that vegetto590 gave copies to them and they proved it with the source code for it.
Dec 30 2001, 10:02 am
Nothing for Dantom to do here...you gave someone your code, and they in turn gave it to others. Dantom has important stuff to do, don't bug them with these things.
Dec 31 2001, 8:48 am
In response to SonVegitto
And I have screenshots of you admitting you weren't hacked... does this mean you sent the game to him to begin with? If so, you're the original culprit. As others have said in this thread, if you don't want others to have your code... don't give it to anyone.

Even if he did somehow actually "steal" it... it's not anyone else's responsibility to police your work. If Dantom was taking responsibility for the intellectual property of others, you never would've been allowed to make a DBZ game to begin with! "Someone stole my stolen property!" just doesn't cut it.

What you (and the seemingly hundreds of others who post threads like this) miss is this:

In inventing BYOND, Dantom has effectively invented a new medium. They have done more than they're required to by making this medium and letting you use it... don't go forcing other responsibilities on them.

Think of Dan and Tom as being on the level of the women who invented paper. You don't go to the inventors of paper and tell them to ban the people who write bomb threats and ransom notes, do you?
Dec 31 2001, 9:25 am
Ok, I dont think there is anything the makers of byond can do. 1.It was basicly your fault they were distributed, 2. BYOND is only the software used to make your games, it is up to the people to solve their problems, 3.I dont really think of it as a community, just a group (a very large one at that) who posts on forums dealing with byond and use byond to make games/applications.

If you need a example why they cant help, here is one:
lets say someone makes a game called DBZ:MASTERS using C++, then gives it to another person so they can use it to help them with a DBZ game on C++. Now, He gives that away to many other people to make copies of it and edit it slightly, now that person can't complain to the makers of C++ and ask them to somehow de-activate the person's C++ software because C++ does not take any responsibility for anyones problems unless it deals directly wiht c++. It was also the person's fault for giving it away in the first place.
Dec 31 2001, 9:48 am
In response to Lesbian Assassin
Lesbian Assassin wrote:
You don't go to the inventors of paper and tell them to ban the people who write bomb threats and ransom notes, do you?

You mean, you don't do that?
Dec 31 2001, 9:53 am
In response to WizDragon
WizDragon wrote:
Lesbian Assassin wrote:
You don't go to the inventors of paper and tell them to ban the people who write bomb threats and ransom notes, do you?

You mean, you don't do that?

It's really hard to enforce.
Dec 31 2001, 5:30 pm
Dec 31 2001, 5:31 pm
In response to Lesbian Assassin
I just didnt want the same thing that happened with GT Genesis to happen to my code base. I dont actually care for it, i just dont wanna see the hub flooded yet again.
Dec 31 2001, 8:40 pm
In response to Deadron
Nothing for Dantom to do here...you gave someone your code, and they in turn gave it to others.

Hmm... this is a lesson I learned the hard way when I was a Computer Science student. Someone remind me in a few weeks and I'll write up the sordid story. :)