ID:135797
 Feb 17 2004, 8:39 pm
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I don't mind that I can't leave junk on the HUB anymore, but I'd rather people not know the address of the site my files will be stored at. Is there any way to set it up so that the files are downloaded off the HUB without the person downloading being able to see where it came from?
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Nah. I don't have much control over anything on it. It's just the basic webpackage they throw in with my internet connection.
Oh well, looks like I'll just have to seek out another solution. | |
This does leave some of us newer developers at a loss, and/or poorer developers...Most good Webhosting requires fees to have anything over a few MB of data transfer etc etc...Is there a way we can possibly pay a minimal fee, say, a dollar or so per update of a Hub entry already in place, and 5 Dollars per new hub entry? This would help alot. Or maybe some sort of cheaper subscription per month thing...That would save newer or poorer developers from having to surf the web for the best deal...And would help DanTom with server prices ^_^
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FenrirXIII wrote:
This does leave some of us newer developers at a loss, and/or poorer developers...Most good Webhosting requires fees to have anything over a few MB of data transfer etc etc...Is there a way we can possibly pay a minimal fee, say, a dollar or so per update of a Hub entry already in place, and 5 Dollars per new hub entry? This would help alot. Or maybe some sort of cheaper subscription per month thing...That would save newer or poorer developers from having to surf the web for the best deal...And would help DanTom with server prices ^_^ It's our hope that some in the BYOND community will be interested in being web providers for this. If so, we may choose to list them as partners, and might create some tools to enhance the whole experience. | |
Ya, I can do this once I have my cable modem (shouldn't be too long). Then, I could set up an FTP for my web server. I pretty much have an entire hard drive empty (30+ GB), and enough RAM. Once I get my cable, I'll post something in the forums.
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Goku72 wrote:
Ya, I can do this once I have my cable modem (shouldn't be too long). Then, I could set up an FTP for my web server. I pretty much have an entire hard drive empty (30+ GB), and enough RAM. Once I get my cable, I'll post something in the forums. Maybe not.. who's your cable ISP? Many cable ISPs have a "transfer cap" that if you exceed it, you get your service cut off, or they charge you extra. I've heard that Comcast is pretty bad for this. | |
Comcast? Are you sure? I have Comcast cable, and at times I have downloaded a LOT of stuff, theyve never cut my service off(or even limited it).
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Um thats not cool because now people can DL my game and host it when ever so I cant give control over it.....WHY O WHY did they have to do this!?
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Calm down man, it still downloaded from a host if you have no zip file AVAILABLE! Just because you can no longer put it on the hub doesn't mean you HAVE to specify a download location.
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Darkfirewolf5 wrote:
Um thats not cool because now people can DL my game and host it when ever so I cant give control over it.....WHY O WHY did they have to do this!? If you're setting up your game to have a download URL, then anyone could download it from anywhere. If you're not setting it up with a download URL, then there's no issue. All this does is require people to do a little more work: make their games not assume that someone who downloads it is subscribed to it. This is hardly rocket science, since anyone could just as easily (though obviously illegally) send a game over to a friend for free once they've subscribed and downloaded it. Just look up client.CheckPassport() and you're safe from that sort of thing. It's much easier, of course, to make your game unlock features based on whether or not someone is a subscriber. That way, people can play a feature-limited demo, then choose whether or not they want to buy the whole thing. If someone sends the game to a friend, then the friend still isn't a subscriber and automatically gets a feature-limited version (with the full version locked inside the program). Libraries, resources, demos, and other such things can still be stored on the BYOND server, because there's no way to restrict those resources by subscriber-only if they're on an external server. | |
I plan on setting up something for smaller games on the Polaris server, large files wouldn't be allowed, but there's no transfer cap.
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Nadrew wrote:
I plan on setting up something for smaller games on the Polaris server, large files wouldn't be allowed, but there's no transfer cap. Yeah, except that we have to pay for bandwidth on polaris. So I'm gonna go ahead and veto that one. | |
How about I only accept a limited amount of people (5-10?)? Give a few people the chance to move their files off the main server.
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Nadrew wrote:
How about I only accept a limited amount of people (5-10?)? Give a few people the chance to move their files off the main server. It defeats the point. The main purpose of all this is to offload our bandwidth to other servers so we can afford to expand our audience for the future. As Deadron noted, we'll have a grace period for existing games, enough to allow people to hopefully to acquire some webspace or find alternatives. | |
Good point, I hadn't though of it like that, I think I can dig up another server somewhere =P (if I could figure out how to host from this machine again I'd do that, but it's not being nice)
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Jotdaniel wrote:
Comcast? Are you sure? I have Comcast cable, and at times I have downloaded a LOT of stuff, theyve never cut my service off(or even limited it). You're talking about downloading, he's talking about uploading. When you host a game, you're sending data to other players, thus uploading. I doubt there's any limit on downloading. | |
You could always give your site a download script with something like .php to deliver the files without the files being directly accessible.
Lummox JR