Upgrade? More like a Downgrade.

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Aug 11 2007, 3:09 pm
In response to Karnlor
Karnlor wrote:
It seems people tend to glance over a post rather than read it. I never said that the new BYOND was an atrocity in coding. The new graphic capabilities are great, the process itself is probably improved, its smoother, and more realiable. But what blows my mind is the horrible INTERFACE. When in old BYOND version 341.877, you could have everything you need in a single window, now you have to switch between 4 or even 5.

A list of such greivances would be as this, no matter how minor or insignificant:
- Commands such as macro creation, reconnect, etc, are completely seperate from the game window and have to switch back and forth to find out what macro is needed, enter it, and do what you need to do.

This is by necessity; they couldn't simply be forced into the interface of every game, and yet they're important, so the Options & Messages dialog exists for that very reason.

- As such with the extra command window for connection information, system echos, etcetera, i dont want two windows. i just want one.

What if the game doesn't have one?

- You cant open up the same window to go to a second game, as if you use recently joined game list from the bookmark command, it opens a completely seperate window. Forcing you to close and lose all previous conversation, information, etcetera found in the other window.

If the other game's skin differs, all that would have to be lost anyway.

- Pager is completely seperate, a hastle in itself.

Yet embedding the pager would be impossible with new interfaces, and it was never desirable.

- As mentioned previously, its possible for several windows to have to be open at once, so i'll end up having a toolbar button which has been stacked, forcing me to have to look through it all just to find the window i want.

Old games were the same way with browser popups. Nothing changed there.

- Necessary to open up a window just to find a game, whereas i would have a constant window for anything on an older Dream Seeker. So no more website help files in your dreamseeker browser, you'll have to switch around between windows some more, and leave your current game unattended just to find out if another game is up, or check forums.

I'm not sure I get the issue here.

Lummox JR
Aug 11 2007, 3:20 pm
In response to Polantaris
I'm so grateful I can remove statpanels. Now I only update one stat at a time, when I want to update them and not every 7 ticks. :D
Aug 11 2007, 4:22 pm
In response to CaptFalcon33035
the only reason why commands is still there is for verbs such as Options, Save, etc.
Aug 11 2007, 5:08 pm
In response to Lummox JR
Lummox JR wrote:
Trust me, Dan's code is far, far scarier. You may be able to imagine how massive and complex the source code is, but picture that almost entirely without comments. Then picture it with a lot of type-unsafe behavior to boot, which we're still in the process of fixing. (Seriously.) Dan is of course an amazing programmer to have made the guts of BYOND as powerful as they are, but you definitely don't want to get lost in there.

Lummox JR

Can you post a small sniplet of BYOND's code?
I want to see it!

(Like a block of code or something)
Aug 11 2007, 6:03 pm
In response to Lummox JR
haha, i miss Dan :(. What happend to that wanker.
Aug 11 2007, 6:04 pm
its not Outrageous, its necissary. You dont appreciate the huge OVERHAUL that was made for 4.0. Ugh, you need to be a programmer to some degree to understand why backwards compatibility is sometimes not feasible.
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