What I'm saying is that it's unlikely that either has proof. I'm not arguing who should have it, I'm only stating that, regardless of who should present evidence, neither party has it.

Bravo1 wrote:

Ryuk25 wrote:

Actually ripping has a lot to do with the number of votes you would get, ripping=no respect respect=votes,

if you aren't respected you aren't getting votes.

Respect has nothing to do with the voting here, it's based on the quality of the work that is produced. People think that he produced the better image and as a result he gained more votes. Respect and Talent do not always go hand in hand, just ask Vincent Van Gogh, his work was considered terrible in his time, yet he is now known as one of the greatest artists to ever live, even though no one respected him in his own time.

You're making accusations and correlations that make little to no sense. If votes were based on respect, rather than effort and quality then the voting system would be a popularity contest. This is not a popularity contest, and if that's what you think it is then you can get the fuck out right now.

It is what I think, but is it what I want? No. But that is what BYOND is, you seriously think someone who hates the fuck out of D-Cire would vote for him even if he made the best anime picture with text on it?

Yes it's true he did rip I've talked to solarobvilion he did not give anyone permission to use the source and D-Cire is lying out of his ass.

Citation needed. Unless you can provide proof other than "He told me so" then we can't take you seriously. On top of that, graphics and coding are, one again, completely different fields. The way he acts in one field may not mean he does the same in another. You're biased towards him based on your previous information, which hasn't even been proven true yet. Simmer down.

I'm not biased, it's just unlikely that he would get that many votes considering barely anyone on BYOND likes him, I personally have nothing against him but he lies in one of his older posts he said he is using NE cause it looks like a dead project now he is saying solaroblivion gave him permission to use it. There is no way in hell he got 18 votes legitimately, No way. Alright I could vote for him,you,RR05,Techgamer,ralphy,everyone else who commented on this post and he would still not have 18 votes, that's not even considering the people I mentioned who voted on other people.

So let me say it again? do you think he got those votes legitimately?

Okay, let's see here.

I'm not biased, it's just unlikely that he would get that many votes considering barely anyone on BYOND likes him

Once again, the contest was about GFX, not about how much people "like you". His work was better, get over it.

There is no way in hell he got 18 votes legitimately, No way. Alright I could vote for him,you,RR05,Techgamer,ralphy,everyone else who commented on this post and he would still not have 18 votes

That's not the limit of people in BYOND you know. A lot more people visit this page and vote on things, they just don't chat regularly. Get real.

So let me say it again? do you think he got those votes legitimately?

Yes. There's no evidence to show that he didn't.

Also, what you're presenting isn't evidence that he's cheating at the votes. Just because someone is guilty of robbery does not mean they're guilty of murder, or arson, or anything. Innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

Stop trying to stir up shit with the lame ass excuse of: "But he was dishonest once!"

Everyone lies every now and then, but cheating at a voting? He'd have to create like 15 accounts just to do that, no one is stupid enough to waste their time making accounts for such a small contest. This was meant for fun and you're making it shitty. Knock it off.

Ryuk25 wrote:

Bravo1 wrote:

Okay, let's see here.

I'm not biased, it's just unlikely that he would get that many votes considering barely anyone on BYOND likes him

Once again, the contest was about GFX, not about how much people "like you". His work was better, get over it.

Once again, it doesn't matter if it was a cooking contest! I know it's a GFX contest but people aren't going to vote for him cause he has the best GFX, they will vote if they like him or not! What don't you understand about that statement? this is BYOND, you have been on here to understand just talent will get you nowhere on this site!

Okay, this is the fucking dumbest thing I've ever read.

Once again, it doesn't matter if it was a cooking contest! I know it's a GFX contest but people aren't going to vote for him cause he has the best GFX, they will vote if they like him or not!

You obviously don't know what a GFX contest actually is then. a GFX contest is where people vote on who has the best GFX. You see, that's how contests work. People submit their work and their work is voted on based on their quality. So, this notion you have that people vote based on popularity? That's fucking stupid.

this is BYOND, you have been on here to understand just talent will get you nowhere on this site!

Really? That's why NVS is getting massively popular right? Because I'm popular? last time I checked, I'm not, and Masterralphy is not insanely popular either (no offense, he's more popular than I am anyways). Last time I checked all the big-time games on byond are up there because they're... wait for it... well made and fun to play.

Byond isn't about how popular you are, people get popular by producing quality work. Just because you know people doesn't mean you automatically win at life.

Seriously, are you fucking insane or just trolling? Please say you're just trolling, because if you're not then I should call the homeless shelter and get a bed ready for you because you're just not going to make it in this world bro.

errr are you fucking braindead retarded!?!!? You want people to judge it based on the quality of the GFX, but they aren't going to do that, alright do it with me HE CAN HAVE THE BEST GFX IN THE WORLD BUT PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM CAUSE HE HAS THE BEST GFX THEY WILL VOTE FOR HIM IF THEY ARE FRIENDS WITH HIM IF THEY HATE HIM THEY OBVIOUSLY WON'T VOTE FOR HIM, I'VE EXPLAINED THIS TO YOU 5 TIMES NOW WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!?

The difference between what I think and what you think is: What you think is an opinion based on your experiences in BYOND. what I think is based on a fact that contests are supposed to be judged by talent. You're saying "They won't vote based on talent." How can you be so sure? Do you have prehensile knowledge of what people vote for? No, you don't and neither do I, but at least I have the decency to say "I don't know what people will vote for, but I'm pretty sure it's based the rules of the fucking contest, especially when people were told to vote on what GFX they thought were best." You're being arrogant in the prospect that you believe that people won't vote based on talent. Make a note everyone, Ryuk25 is calling you all shallow.

Actually, Masterralphy is insanely popular, he knows pretty much everyone on BYOND and you know just as well as I do what he is on BYOND. Though I'm not saying that's why NVS is popular, it's popular cause it's following someone big right now on BYOND "2D Side scrolling Naruto Games".

Perhaps in our circle, but in all of byond? Nope. As for NVS being popular because of a fad, please tell me which other sidescrolling Naruto games have hit it big on byond. You won't find any that come remotely close compared to some of the bigger games. NVS is popular because of Naruto, yes, but it's main catching point if the way the game plays, which is much, MUCH better than any of the other side-scrolling Naruto games. It's a proof that quality is the deciding factor in the popularity of a game.

You are so wrong buddy, life is all about knowing the right people and being at the right place at the right time, that's why people like rebecca black and justin bieber are popular and everyone knows them, while people like Elton John,Adele,etc are 20x better then him and are barely known. In the sense of BYOND there are so many good games that are barely played including Jail Em,Decadence,Dead and Walking,Paradise City,Sunday the 19th and the list goes on, yet shitty naruto games have 100s of players.

Are you fucking kidding me, Sir Elton John was knighted by the fucking queen of England and you're saying he's not popular? Are you socially retarded? Seriously, do you have aspergers, because that would explain a LOT.

As for popularity of byond games, there's a ton of weeaboos on byond that play the games, but they're only popular due to the initial quality of the anime series themselves. Naruto and Anime is this generations Power Rangers. It's awesome because of what it does for you, not because of how many people know about it.

As for life being about who you know? That's fucking stupid, I don't care if you know Aerosmith, it doesn't make you a better person than me or anyone else. You know how I make $25 an hour? Because I'm good at what I fucking do, not because I "knew a guy". Put some effort into your fucking life.

I could say the same exact thing to you, buddy. People don't succeed in this world cause of talent, there are so many people who have talent yet they are overshadowed by people like Justin Bieber,Rebecca Black,Kim Kardashian,etc.

Micheal Jordan, Micheal Jackson, Jim Carrey, Dustin Hoffman, Sir Elton John, Tupac Shakur, Eminem, Tom Petty, Elvis, Bruce Lee, Bill Gates, Ted Turner, I can fucking go on. The list of people who got to such high stations due to talent is much MUCH larger than that of people who "know someone".

Justin Beiber and Rebecca Black? They're popular because there's little teenyboppers that like their music, that say they actually have talent. Liking something just because a bunch of other people like it is the most dishonest way to go about living your life.

I may have to struggle for what I get in life, I may have to put hard work into it, but it'll pay off and in the end I can look back at you and laugh in your stupid fucking face because you honestly believed that talent was less important that being popular.

I bet you're never even going to get a job unless a friend begs their boss to hire you. Because you're too fucking weak to do it yourself and actually EARN your way through life.

It may be easier to "know people", but no one's going to respect you, because you've never done anything worthy of their respect.

The best part is that I ain't even mad.

Im going to say this simply because the arguing is going nowhere fast, and is rather pointless for multiple reasons. I could care less about if people like me, or my popularity. Ill do what i want, when i want, as long as it abides by BYOND's ToS. That's that.

@Ryuk; Ive stated multiple times that the source was obtained my solar once i found out a few days after. Read the HUB's feedback, or some of my posts and you know that.

@Bravo; On the note of popularity, ive followed you for a while not in the "Become a follower" button thing, but in regards of your projects and blog posts. I also thank you for arguing with Ryuk, seeing as he is an immature brain-dead child that thinks his opinion is the only way to go about things. However, you should just close the blog post's comments at this time seeing as Ryuk is making things get out of hand. If you don't want to close it then just temporarily ban Ryuk if you have the power cause at this point its crazy.

@Everyone else; Thanks for the congratz, i hope you'll all try again next time. I know i will! =3