http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149586.html
The good news:
--Pretty much the same familiar, comfortable design as the past PSX and PS2 controllers.
--Built-in sensors to detect controller's pitch and roll should create lots of new game design opportunities.
The bad news:
--Omission of "rumble" feature eliminates some game design opportunities (though it also eliminates some opportunities to scare the bejeebers out of you, so that's OK, I guess).
--New-fangled wireless design. Does this portend lots of battery-charging and directly-in-front-of-console-sitting? Time will tell.
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 May 9 2006, 5:27 am
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Pshh, I really don't care about the rumble, especially in wireless controls. Last thing I want is another thing to drain the batteries.
As for the whole wireless being a con: You must be joking or crazy. I just got a logitec wireless PS2 controller. It is great, and really shows that it is possible for a wireless control to perform like a wired. A 50 hour battery life is nice too(Thats 50 hours of active use with rumble). The pitch and roll sounds cool, but I only see a few games where I would really want it (Kirby's tilt and tumble anyone?). Also, racing games would be interesting, I tilt and roll when I play them anyways, this way it might actually do something! | |
I really doubt a little shaking sensation should determine wether you buy a console or not.
But back on topic, I am really digging the controller, it's way better than the boomerang looking one and I believe that if the USB attaches to the console and charges while PLAYING, Sony will have something very good. But only time will tell if the controller can do this, I would hope so. =D | |
Man, I see that tilt motion getting annoying fast. I just hope games support stick or tilt (I disliked that many games only used stick on PS1/2 and never gave the option to use the pad, or vice versa).
Wireless is all good. | |
Well, that's two testimonials in favor of wireless, so I'll refrain from judging until I get a chance to try it!
I'm not sure whether or not I'll try to get a PS3 at release... it sounds like it's going to be pricey, the first generation of a new console usually contains bugs, and so far I haven't seen any upcoming killer apps for PS3. | |
Ahh, he said "killer apps"!
Really, killer apps? They arn't apps, and what makes them killer? They are games, and yes, games can be killer, in the GTA way :P But really, don't say killer apps, say "great games", it makes you sound like you know what you are talking about. Sorry, it's one of those phrases that have caught on that make me sick. Some of the others are: Blog-O-Sphere PodCasting iPod(Used as a general term for MP3 player) Those are just a few, but they really get me. | |
The PS3 will is pricey, with a whole bunch of un-needed crap, in my books. Just like the Xbox 360.
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Oh yeah, my whole point in posting that was to say:
Wireless can work great, if it is done right. Think about the range on a cordless phone. Now I know they only have a talk time of around 3 hours(Most at least), but that much range is not need, but the direction and distance don't matter nearly as much as they used to. It's not like they are your TV remote. I am not sure if the PS3 use RF, FM, or whatever phones use. All of those are good in signal strength and lack of interference. I don't know which one is the fastest. I have a remote that uses a low range FM, and it works great. RF is common in wireless mice, I currently own one and I cannot see a delay at all. It appears to be as instant as a wired. It gets 20-30 hours of light use(Mostly moving and little clicking), and about 20 hours of hard usage(Lots of clicking and constant moving), but the range is not so great. My wireless PS2 controller uses the 2.4G freq, same as cordless phones, and it has a nice range and good speed, and a great 50 hour battery life(2 AA Batteries). There are some really bad wireless controllers for PS2 and X-Box, but don't use those for example. Use the Logitec Wireless for PS2, it is a great example. | |
Heh... I sympathize with your distaste for clumsy neologisms, though I've never found "killer apps" particularly irritating (or maybe I did at one time -- can't recall). I'd say a game is an application (and for consoles, games are just about the only application).
But it's a moot point now, because I think I've found a kil -- er, a great game. Apparently it was just announced today. Nobody yet knows what you do or what your goals are in it... but my gamey-sense is tingling, and that doesn't happen all that often. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/706/706072p1.html | |
"--Built-in sensors to detect controller's pitch and roll should create lots of new game design opportunities."
LOL NINTENDO It's upsetting that Nintendo had to unveil their controller early to warm the public up to the concept, then have scumbags like Sony rip off their ideas and endanger the success of the Ninty niche. I mean, c'mon. Sony excells in the market of generic, year-by-year updates of various racing or sports games. They have total monopoly on mediocrity; why bother with Nintendo's market of innovation? =( As for the wireless thing... the Wavebird wireless controllers on the gamecube generally worked fine. | |
It's not like they made a controller that looks similar to the wiimote and just scratched off nintendo and put sony. As long as they didn't do that then it's fine with me, and also it's not like you'll be swinging your Ps3 controller around like a sword or anything like that, so i'm pretty sure people will get over this in a few weeks.
-edit- For those who don't want to pay 600 bucks for the Ps3 and stripped down 20GBHDD version will be available in stores also.(500 bucks) http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149552.html | |
"I mean, c'mon. Sony excells in the market of generic, year-by-year updates of various racing or sports games. They have total monopoly on mediocrity; why bother with Nintendo's market of innovation? =("
So wrong, so wrong. It's not Sony who develops these games, it's EA (Mostly). Who also happen to develop for every console, and do a lot more than sports games. The idea of making it better yearly, does have some sense to it. For instance, compare the first version of 'NBA Live' to the latest, you will find in any way shape or form they are no comparison, as new things are being done with the evolution of consoles. New things are being found, new tricks of the trade being formed. Now, answer me this with one of the longest video game franchises 'Madden', let's just say you liked this game for some odd reason, it's first version released in 1989. Would you wait 15 or 16+ years for the next release, or have yearly upgrades that have new and fun features along with ways to make your friends cry in disbelief when you pound them. =P And my counter to the argument of sports games are the Mario series. Mario Sunshine Paper Mario Super Mario Mario and Luigi Super Smash Brothers Super Smash Brothers Melee etc etc etc and all of the countless Mario crap, how much Mario does one person need? All game developing companies in a respect do the same thing: Find something that works, and milk it for as much as it's worth. *I'm not downgrading Mario, I loved it...when I was 6, I just think it's crazy with some of the weird stuff they come up with. | |
After reading a little, they are actually using BlueTooth(Which I thought was a Microsoft owned format), which is said to have a great connection at over 20 feet between walls and whatnot. It also operates on an unused freqency and is commonly supported by computer(My PS3 control might just work on my PC, with some unoffical drives, that is)
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Papoose said some stuff:
So wrong, so wrong. It's not Sony who develops these games, it's EA (Mostly). Yeah, I know that. Sony *fosters* mediocrity- they have a monopoly over it because that's what their consoles are about and have always been about. The idea of making it better yearly, does have some sense to it. It's called a cash cow. Wake up. Would you wait 15 or 16+ years for the next release, or have yearly upgrades that have new and fun features along with ways to make your friends cry in disbelief when you pound them. =P I'm sorry, I play good games that innovate, not upgrade. "And my counter to the argument of sports games are the Mario series. Mario Sunshine Paper Mario Super Mario Mario and Luigi Super Smash Brothers Super Smash Brothers Melee etc etc etc" It's funny because you're wrong. Mario Sunshine was VERY different to Mario 64. Paper Mario is a freakin' 2D turn-based RPG, not a 3D real-time platformer. Mario + Luigi are, from what I've read, a fun puzzle-based platformer/RPG on the handheld systems. Smash Bros. + Melee, apart from being on totally different consoles, were 2D beat-'em-ups. If the mario games ended up being the same game with exactly the same mechanics, just with less jaggies and one extra character to play as every year, yes, I would stop buying the games. Your example sucked. | |
Look fangirl Elly, I don't know where you get the idea that Sony fosters mediocrity. They have some of the best games playable on their system. Yes, the big N does have some great games too, but they are not Gods. Think about Mario Party. How many of them are there? Like 8 or 9. What is the difference? A few more minigames and some more board. Thats it, just like the football games, people want them, but they want them better, so the developers provide them.
Many of the games on the playstation are very Innovative. Sly Cooper, GTA(Ok, it is nolonger just a Sony game, but it was born on the PSX and has been very innovative over the years), Ratchet & Clank, and many others. I think you are just closed minded and have never really gave the PlayStation a chance. Oh yeah, take the GameBoy for example. Untill the DS, almost every gameboy was like the last, only upgraded. The DS was the first one to actually add something new and special. | |
Fan girl Elly, haha! =)
Incidently: Yeah, you have good points. I have a problem with your mentioning of Sly Cooper, though. Wasn't that like, cell-shaded or something? =p | |
The batteries better be A) Rechargeable, or B) Sony supplies them unlimited for life.
Otherwise, I'll stick to my wires, thanks. | |
Hmm, it seems Nintendo still has a rumble. Thanks for not sucking, Nintendo! :]
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Scratch PS3 off my "I'll get this, eventually" list.