What a derp. :)

You're forgetting animations. If you have a 4 frame walking animation and a 2 frame attacking animation and one frame for standing per ANGLE per character, you're looking at several thousand frames per object. This is not feasible in any way.

@Flame Sage: Thanks. That's one less discouragement.

@Green Lime: Do you still have the sources? I could probably use them to find something new. Thanks for the good luck as well. (Even though you may be being sarcastic.) - P.S.: All 3D Games are roughly about 30MBs to 10GBs in size. Your 10MB RSC shouldn't really be a downer for such a great discovery. ("Did he really bring the Wright Brothers into this?" Yes I did. And their first flight sucked ass but then they added a rutter and more stuff to the plane. We can also add more things to make the game less space consuming.)

@Vegetas4: You don't have to really be a good iconner to test this. I simply made a Box with a white inside and a black outline. Then when src.leftrighticon increases, the left vertical outline is moved to the right one. The same concept with the other variable. I will show you a video on how I have already tested this.

@EmpirezTeam: Yes, I did. It was the quickest analogy I could think of. Plus it makes a bit of sense with the point I am trying to get across.

@D4RK3 54B3R: Let's call the icon_state="Box Test [src.leftrighticon],[src.updownicon]" rotate_state. Each rotate_state will be their own animation. Simple. If you don't get then or doubt me still then I will show you it being done through a video hopefully to be shown in my next post. Thanks for the feedback by the way, this is another update for the idea.

@EmpirezTeam: Damn right they did. Otherwise we wouldn't be able go on vacations easier like how I'm going to Hawaii in December. . On a "plane". Awesome? Yes.

The big difference between this and the Wright brothers is that the Wright brothers didn't wait for someone else to build an airplane then decide, "That's not good enough," and tie a bunch of penguins to a Buick and expect it to fly. They used the right tools for the job, didn't have outrageous expectations, and took into account the limitations of their technology.

You're trying to make a 3d game with a 2d platform that doesn't support 3d and sprites. This would have been reasonable, if we didn't have much better ways of handling 3d already. Instead of wasting your time trying to hack together a useless tech demo, why not just use a platform that actually supports 3d?

What you're doing has been done, and it's been proven to be incredibly inefficient and not usable in a game. Even if it hadn't been done yet, there are other people who are better programmers and who understand the language more fully than you. Why do you think they haven't all done this? They haven't done it because it isn't useful. It doesn't add anything to BYOND, nor does it add anything to any games on BYOND. It isn't feasible to use 3d in a BYOND game, no matter how much you work on it and tweak it and optimize, it just won't work.

If you genuinely just don't understand why this can't be a viable option, then I envy you your oblivious ignorance, it must be wonderful.

he'll learn from this, let him try what hes doing :P

Xirre wrote:

Ether7. When did you first join BYOND? March 2011? Am I right?

Which would be 2 months before you.

Yeah, BYOND does not handle 3D too well. One good example of very slow handling is a raycasting demo (which is pseudo-3D) Unknown Person put up back in 2005. It was a cool project, but was very slow. Especially when trying to render textures at real-time.

It doesn't hurt to try though. It is, however, no lie about the performance issues with 3D. JackGuy had a pretty cool wire-framed demo though (regardless of no skins).

Why don't we host a server where everything is downloaded? It's downloaded bit by bit as the player moves? I was thinking of doing this. It seems a bit simple.