Forum_account wrote:
Atriosv3 wrote:
Why does that matter what done is done, other people seem to like it. Just move on , you keep following Journalism guild.

It matters because if all "journalism" type posts are submitted to BYOND journalism, quality standards will develop. After seeing interviews by different people put in the same place, the authors will learn from each other and the content will improve. By having a separate news blog you're less likely to be pressed to improve the quality. Because this is a news blog for a small circle of BYOND users, most readers will be members of the circle and will either be too polite to offer criticism of the content or won't care about the quality because they're just happy that their circle of friends is getting attention.

The same thing happens with BYOND games. Everyone works on their own game and might read blog posts about other people's projects, but very few people actually care about other people's projects. Because of this, the quality of games isn't really improving.

That's interesting. Are you saying people should be working on games together? I do kind of agree with what Forum was saying, it could help you all sharpen your skills, also like Bravo was saying, Journalism won't "deny" your submissions, but would request you do this and that if it didn't meet the standard). I do like the CSS of this place and all, but perhaps you can put your interviews into Journalism. You can come up with something unique for this place like focusing on the Blog aspect. (hench DMBlog)

@ Interview: I actually enjoyed reading it, but I felt the curse words inside of it didn't make it sound professional, weren't 'needed' to make the point, and don't quite appeal to the younger audience. Other than that, good interview.

Truseeker wrote:
That's interesting. Are you saying people should be working on games together?

Sort of, but I probably don't mean that in the sense that you mean it. I don't mean that you should have someone else helping with your graphics and code.

What I mean is that people currently work on their own games (sometimes in small groups) but they don't really care about other people's projects. Sure, developers read each others posts and say things like "wow that looks great", but this is mostly just for the sake of wanting to seem polite or interested without actually being interested (which makes it impolite!). Sometimes people discuss game ideas but it's usually at a theoretical level - you're discussing potential ways to implement a feature you're not offering criticism of how someone did implement a feature. This leads to two problems:

1. Each developer is so focused on their own game that they don't care enough about other games to give a decent critique.

2. Because each developer is so obsessed with their own work, they are quick to dismiss any criticism they do receive, even if it's quality feedback.

This means that developers are doing very little to push each other to make better games and are unreceptive to the pushes they receive from others. Another part of the problem is that people often try to make epic RPGs that will never be complete, so when someone complains about part of your game being bad, there's always the excuse of "this is a pre-alpha test, it's a work in progress, I didn't get to that part yet." The same thing is happening here except it's with BYOND news blogs instead of games.

To think about it another way, think of every BYOND developer as a chess player. Except nobody ever plays chess against anyone else, we're all just practicing by ourselves. There's only so much we'll improve on our own. If we played some matches against each other we'd be able to exchange ideas and learn from each other. People are comfortable practicing by themselves because they can never lose that way.
I think it's good DMBlog split off from BYOND Journalism. Hopefully this blog will become a magnet for fangame stuff while BYOND Journalism focuses on real games as its level of quality rises.

I guess the comparison would be a newspaper vs a tabloid.
SuperAntx wrote:
I think it's good DMBlog split off from BYOND Journalism. Hopefully this blog will become a magnet for fangame stuff while BYOND Journalism focuses on real games as its level of quality rises.

I guess the comparison would be a newspaper vs a tabloid.

I call tabloid.
A tabloid is a tabloid because it's mostly about drama and often has false, defaming information. Calling something like Bandwagon a tabloid would be reasonable, but I don't see how this blog is comparable to one.
EG, we don't mind newspaper :)
Meh, don't get why everyone is hating on this blog, these guys wanted their own Journalism blog, so they made one. Big deal. Not like being affiliated with Byond Journalism would get them more viewers since people typically just search the blog for whatever new post is made, not Journalism's page.
EmpirezTeam wrote:
A tabloid is a tabloid because it's mostly about drama and often has false, defaming information.

Somewhat, yes. What I was referring to specifically was its low standard of journalistic integrity. This blog for instance is able to focus on low brow anime games while BYOND Journalism isn't able to.
How about we start with the problems of 'this' interview? (Not the person interviewed)

What was wrong with the interview?
Nothing really. I mean, it's kind of uninteresting because it's about a random person I don't know who's been working on anime games. An interview with a random person on BYOND is going to usually be rather uninteresting, just because most people don't know who they are nor do they care.
Lol, there's nothing wrong at all with the interview, some people just prefer to read about people they know or who are famous. I suggest they don't read at all if it's boring for them :S

The main point of interviewing random people is to get their views on BYOND as a whole etc as opposed to the same old famous people. We aren't interviewing rippers and it's not anime only.
I agree, only a select few are "famous" on Byond, so interviewing me them over and over would get tiresome.

I think it's a cool idea, I don't see why someone has to be the greatest at something to get a little attention. Besides, that means your not limited to 5 guys.
Yeah, it would get tiresome if you kept interviewing me about the newest Simple Developments Guild contest or listed games people like Teka, Tom EmpirezTeam(lolwut?) and a few other, select "famous" or "interesting" people.
Lul whut, there are famous people on BYOND? Sounds pretty sad.
Within Byond? Yeah, there are plenty.
ShadeCyberPlatinum wrote:
Lul whut, there are famous people on BYOND? Sounds pretty sad.

Pretty much, hence, the reason they find interviews like these ^ boring.
Was a good read to me, I see everyone on BYOND as equals, being that I started within the anime community, and moved up to original games.
ShadeCyberPlatinum wrote:
Was a good read to me, I see everyone on BYOND as equals, being that I started within the anime community, and moved up to original games.

I agree, I think I'll enjoy reading these Interviews, as long as there's not 20 people I don't know being interviewed a week. But I plan to continue reading if they continue writing.
I thought it was a good read. Meh I guess, BYOND drama is BYOND drama.
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