As everyone knows, or at least it seems that everyone knows, Casey Anthony was recently given a "not-guilty" verdict on the three major injunctions she faced involving the death of her daughter, Calyee Anthony. If you've been around media, then you've in all likelihood seen the "the justice system has failed" headline. Most people whose opinions I've had shoved down my throat seem to think that not only is Casey guilty, but that she should be put to death and that the lack of doing so is our failure to avenge Caylee's death.
I disagree completely, mostly because of what lies at the fundamental core of our judicial system: innocence unless proven otherwise. The fact that so much public contempt and loathing has been going around in the last three years and she was still rightfully given an acquittal, gives me a slimmer of hope for our courts, and even our society.
The prosecution failed to prove that Casey was guilty. It's as simple as that. Not only that, they couldn't prove when Caylee died, where Caylee died, or even how Caylee died. The only reason that the trial made it as far as it did is because Casey was caught in so many lies. This verdict does not imply that she is innocent, only that the law cannot say she's guilty.
Cases like these show that there is still integrity to our courts. Rather it's cases like Kerry Silvers, a man who had his entire life taken from him for a single, non-violent crime, where he was convicted on circumstantial evidence, where the police handled every part of his investigation poorly, and even used him as a scapegoat for another case; cases like these that really make me worry. I eagerly await his book and the completion of his site.
Jul 7 2011, 12:26 pm
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Masterdarwin88
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Lol. Personally, I do not agree with the sentence. But, eh, justice was served.
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I agree.
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You don't agree with the sentence? She was sentenced to the full amount that the law allowed.
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Not living anywhere remotely near, I'm not sure about the details of the verdict and sentence, but I completely agree with your post. Now we only need to get the judicial system to abolish that barbaric death penalty.
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I would really, really like to see a few penal colonies institutionalized instead of a death penalty or life imprisonment. If they don't want to be a part of our society, don't force them to, but don't take their life from them. Put them on an island that's able to sustain human life and let them live their life in solitude or with other violent criminals. Make separate colonies for women and men as well, preventing reproduction. More ideas, no time.
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My major issue with this argument is the fact that you care. This trial set no constitutional precedents, did not require a supreme court decision, and I'm willing to bet it did not in any way, shape, or form involve anybody you know personally.
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Hiro the Dragon King wrote:
I would really, really like to see a few penal colonies institutionalized instead of a death penalty or life imprisonment. If they don't want to be a part of our society, don't force them to, but don't take their life from them. Put them on an island that's able to sustain human life and let them live their life in solitude or with other violent criminals. Make separate colonies for women and men as well, preventing reproduction. More ideas, no time. Australia? | |
Yes.
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Jeff8500 wrote:
Australia? i lol'd | |
I don't know, finding a dead baby in the trunk of someone's car with duct tape over its mouth while the accused is lying left and right paints a pretty compelling narrative.
The prosecutors should have went for life in prison rather than the death penalty. | |
I really don't even know much about the case, but I'm glad she got off. Not because she was pretty, but because of the hypocritical people shouting "off with her head!" who for some reason get thrills out of seeing people killed. Now they can all go back to their miserable lives until another case that is none of our business hits the media.
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@SAx: First of all, the sentence they shoot for doesn't affect the judgement of guilt. And the girl wasn't found in the car, nor was she a baby.
@Vex: So by your logic, the jurors have no business coming to the same conclusion? How does an objective view make an argument invalid? | |
The point is, everyone has an opinion. Some will agree, some will never understand why she was given such a sentence. It is all perspective and opinion.
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While they couldn't prove that she murdered her child, since when was negligence not a crime? If they would put a parent in prison for the child not attending school, how much more so does responsibility count if a child dies while in your care, disregarding the whole unreported missing for a month thing, lies, and making up occupations/people thing? I didn't keep up with case as much as others, but from what the parties involved said I highly disagree that she should have gotten off so easy. The prosecutors definitively couldn't prove anything with the circumstances of a decayed body and etc but for Casey to only be guilty of lying is pure bull..
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That's true. I thought I had mentioned that in the post. They can't get her on criminal child abuse or neglect because they would have to prove (beyond reasonable doubt) that she intentionally harmed the child.
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I guess my view on the justice system is completely different from the rest. In my opinion, I think Casey Anthony is guilty. 31 days of not reporting her was a clever move to make it difficult for anyone to trace it back to her. The prosecution was unable to prove who killed her, where she was killed first and etc.
Thus making it difficult to convince the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that she was the one who murdered Caylee. In the end, despite the effort from the prosecution justice wasn't served, at least for Caylee. We'll never know who murdered her or how she really died. | |
"We'll never know who murdered her or how she really died." Then how is Casey guilty of murder?
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From what I've read, it seems very likely that she is guilty. I'm pretty sure most people who made the "not guilty" decision thought the same. The point is, there's no punishing someone without 100% proof of guilt, period.
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Basically, Casey Anthony is highly immoral, and obviously a bad parent. She also lied a lot(Although, if she is the killer, her lies actually work for her in adding complication for the Jury). From my knowledge, they couldn't determine motivation, killers method, nor the killer's weapon beyond a reasonable doubt. Also, I find it that people believe what is told, and use beliefs held from the initial versions told to them. For example,evidence the prosecution had later become useless out of it being flawed. This was not a bad thing, in fact it was 100% factual. It was flawed. That is that.
You can't send someone to Death Row, nor can you talk about murdering them once they get out(Read online news articles or youtube comments, everyday people are quite deplorable) if you don't have the proper evidence. What people go on is a type of social observational learning(Who gets to who first with the fact), prejudice from pseudo-psychological ideas of how someone should act, and hype. What I mean by that is the social phenomenon that occurs when you have large groups of people and one flairs their nostrils. Things get riled up, except this is primarily online. None of those are logical reasons, and even if she is immoral, any actions done against her could still be for the wrong reasons. It is still a possibility. Now, How does the court system work? It works similar to how Theories in Science work. Someone proposes it, and what must they do? Defend that theory. If the theory either doesn't adequately explain, is inconsistent, or another theory is better fit - It is ditched. The Prosecution proposes the theory, and the Defense tries to either find an inconsistency or a better theory. The Jury simply looks them over to find which one works. This is good, because if the Prosecution is correct beyond a reasonable doubt, the Defense cannot do anything. The Defense provides a counter-measure. Now in this case, it wasn't really the Defense winning(Or I don't like to think so), it was more the Prosecution failing. Simple as that. Now, to delve into a more moral standpoint, the individuals wishing her Death, and threatening her are Selfish, They are selfish and don't even know it. Look here, Retribution may destroy the instance, but it isn't prevention. It is simply a form of emotional satisfaction. It can be seen as keen to a crime of passion, is some manners. So, out of all the crimes in the world, where individuals may see Casey Anthony as nothing compared to other individuals, why only focus on her? Why not go and try and prevent? If you care so much for the little girl, guess what? She is dead. Now there are plenty of other little girls alive elsewhere, why not help them? Why not better the CPS system and use this whole media fiasco as a way to prove some more outreach programs need to be created? Even more profound, individuals forget that given a criminals existing, it is up to the society to deal with them efficiently. When we focus on retribution and not actual progress, this won't occur. Look at the people who knew the child was being drugged with chloroform, or other forms of neglect to the child. Ex, Friends, Family.. All them. What the hell were they doing? As much as people would love to consider themselves being the best of citizens for creating an outcry, this just isn't true. Oh, And FYI. Retribution wouldn't even work if one wished to go down that illogical, archaic, and non-productive route. Want to know why? Many individuals in Death Row end up spending their life there, and since more procedures occur, more money is spent compared to less spent during Life sentence. If that weren't enough, she won't even do the crime again IF she did it. If she finds herself in a very similar case, with very similar findings - It would be like having 5 crimes and someone was at each one. Won't work out well, and if she is intelligent enough to carry certain methods out, she won't take such a stupid risk. Well, besides that I find it sad that people are going to be like the New Yorkers when Osama Bin Laden died, and wish to lynch her. Possibly dragging her body across the ground. Even more pitiful, if someone killed her, they'd praise em. Even more despicable, this will subside given time, and people will become just as apathetic to the world. I don't mind people being selfish pricks, but at least acknowledge it... Ignorance truly does piss me off. ---------- Anyhow, haven't commented in forever. Those are my two cents. These people wanted a Scapegoat, something to attack. They didn't want Justice. Justice requires something that would be beneficial. In fact, I find it ironic they would have spent more money in an attempt for Retribution they may never have received. By the way, if you wish for links on the Prison system and how Death Row actually does cost more than Life Sentences. Look it up online, and then also use this source in conjunction for analysis. http://www.pewcenteronthestates.org/uploadedFiles/ Prison_Count_2010.pdf Apologies for the grammar, hopefully my message at least provoked thought. That or, I have been threatened for death on msnbc for similar comments. | |