Apr 12 2006, 2:26 am
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Mxjerrett
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I like this new IE it has a built in pop up blocker that i must say is very good. It has a good download blocker and it has much much more.
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How is one supposed to design for IE first when it doesn't follow any documented standards?
I'm not trying to be high and mighty, I'm just pointing out the truth. What's so bad about that? | |
I like this new IE it has a built in pop up blocker that i must say is very good. It has a good download blocker and it has much much more.
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Personally I think IE 7 looks fugly. And it doesn't fix all of the rendering bugs anyway, at least not in the current beta. Nor does it abandon ActiveX, which is practically a prerequisite for it to be secure.
Also, what the bleep is a download blocker supposed to be? I don't want my downloads blocked by a know-it-all browser, thanks muchly. :-) | |
well what you do before you download something is you go to settings or turn it off. but i only blocks auto downloads like when you go to a site and it instantly promops you but if you want to see the download again u press the yellow bar at the top of your screen.
[EDIT] I personally prefer internet explorer over fire fox (even though we have both) because it gives you more freedom. I dont wory about getting viruses because I have 3 firewalls and 4 different brands of virus scan | |
How is one supposed to design for IE first when it doesn't follow any documented standards? Shouldn't that make things easier? No rules = free to do whatever works? Trial and error is incredibly easier than looking up standards and trying to work within that box...lol | |
I have 3 firewalls How in all hell is a firewall supposed to stop you getting a virus? | |
it stops and scans all incoming data atleast 2 of them do the other one is for hackers
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Shouldn't that make things easier? No rules = free to do whatever works? Trial and error is incredibly easier than looking up standards and trying to work within that box...lol What the flaming hell are you smoking? Because I want some! You don't have to look up the standards to use them, that's just silly. Standards mean that things work how you expect them to, because a committee actually sat down and figured out the most sensible way for HTML and CSS to behave. There are very straightforward rules for how it's supposed to work. You don't need to look them up because they're logical and intuitive. IE breaks all that because half the time things don't work, and for no apparent reason. If you visit http://www.positioniseverything.net/, you'll notice that the list of CSS bugs for IE is nearly nine times longer than the one for Firefox; and some of them are the most infuriatingly weird things you ever saw. Take http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/guillotine.html for example. If you view that in IE, half of the content spontaneously disappears when you mouseover particular links! Trying to work around that isn't trial and error, it's banging your head against a brick wall. It's much faster to - yes, you guessed it - look up the workaround on that site, or another like it. What's more tedious, having things work as expected or having to Google for mysterious and difficult-to-describe behaviour? Speaking of mysteriously disappearing content, check out the Peekaboo bug. Wacky fun! - unless of course you're a web designer trying to make your page work. Then it's not fun at all, unless unnecessary stress and wastage of time counts as "fun". Probably the most infuriating bugs, though, are related to Internet Explorer's float model. CSS floats are a wonderful concept, and when they work they work really well. Unfortunately, they rarely work well at all in a certain browser. No prizes for guessing which browser. (Yes, it's IE again.) It plays havoc with the positioning, which can completely ruin a page which looks wonderful in any other browser. So, no. "No rules" doesn't imply freedom in this case; it implies uncontrollable, senseless anarchy. Trial and error this. | |
Rofl, I was laughing for like a whole minute. :D
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The problem is in getting more complicated than need be...lol
Just stick to using tables for layout! lol I'm just kidding, of course, but the thing with those bugs is that if it doesn't work in IE, just don't do it... Find another way that will display your info... (Still kidding, but not as much) | |
Also, y'know, IE sucks.
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Yes, IE is a sad excuse for a browser. People who say "IE works for me" have probably never gave FireFox a chance. My brother was this way, he really resisted the switch, for no good reason. Then he started using my computer occasionally and realized that FireFox is better in many ways, especially the extentions. He, like most of use, love having control over our browser, the ability to change it to our style, without any(or at least many) complications. He doesn't use tabs, which I find odd, but that is the great thing about FireFox, choice. With inventions like IE tab, you don't need to worry about a shotty designed site preventing you from getting to the content. FireFox is far more secure, normally more stable(I have had problems with embeded media players), and MINE!
P.S. A firewall will NOT protect you from a virus coming from a website. A firewall might prevent viruses that come from a network though other means, but if it is not blocking you from seeing this site, how does it know the difference between a webpage and a virus? It doesn't[period] | |
I dislike FireFox. I don't know why, but I'd rather haver IE.
I'm not saying that I never use FF, but rather only in cases when I need to. Myself, I've never got a serious problem due to IE. I don't fudging care about a little adware, ít's easy to delete anyway (for me, at least). So, uhh, my point is that I don't care about those web designers dying. >_> | |
Nice image...I sent it to some web people at work...
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My senior art designer, who is quite excellent, had this response:
That's pretty good :-) High praise from this source! | |
I've used FF and I still stick to IE because I want to have Bill Gate's babies.
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Shouldn't that make things easier? No rules = free to do whatever works? Trial and error is incredibly easier than looking up standards and trying to work within that box...lol That's applies as much to web design about as much as it does to any other part of life. I can't very well open up DreamMaker and start typing(and I quote): okay make this dude heres a verb and its name is larry when it clicked i go ssj5!!!! ....and expect it to work. There are reasons just as to why there are predefined rules and why there are standards: if everyone were to follow them, the world would be a friendlier and more organized place. If browsers such as IE were to follow the standards, then web designers could make a page, following all of the natural rules of such languages as CSS, HTML and JavaScript without(and I quote again) "trying to work within that box" that the damn IE browser puts on the Net. I'm just kidding, of course, but the thing with those bugs is that if it doesn't work in IE, just don't do it... Find another way that will display your info... (Still kidding, but not as much) This is just....retarded. "OMFG, if one thing can't support it don't do it at all!!1!" So, since a lot of things that can be done in Windows can't be done in Linux or Mac, they should never be done at all right? I guess since a large population of users use non-Windows based operating systems, we should tell Tom and the gang to scrap BYOND, folks. But, since the vast majority of your viewing population will be using IE, you're better off pandering to them, anyways... I'd like to think that any website I made would be directed to a slightly more educated audience of Firefox users. I like this new IE it has a built in pop up blocker that i must say is very good. It has a good download blocker and it has much much more. So now it's a "download blocker," eh? Heh, that's gotta be amusing. "Okay, time to download this uber1337 file I found!! What?!?! IE is blocking me from downloading it!!! Now it's telling me to get some Microsoft product instead! Oh teh noes..." I've used FF and I still stick to IE because I want to have Bill Gate's babies. I guess I should warn you now that the last update Bill Gates got from Windows Update made him incapable of sex in any degree. He's now asexual, because he thought it would be more efficient. [Edit] On another note, you wouldn't want to even try to do that. >_> 1. Spreading Bill Gates clones around the world == evilness 2. You'd just die when Bill would crash on you and provide the biggest BSOD you've ever seen. [/Edit] Also, y'know, IE sucks. Amen. [Joins the ath-IE-st religion] | |
That's applies as much to web design about as much as it does to any other part of life. I can't I tried something like this once when I was a lot younger. ^_^; | |
More Educated? I happen to think that using IE or FF is more based on taste then education. I happen to use BOTH browsers. I use IE for web pages that refuse to work in FF and vise versa for pages that refuse to work in IE.
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