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For those of you who don't know what the Newtown Massacre is, on December 14 a 20 year old man killed 20 Elementary School Students, a principal, and 5 teachers. He killed his mother and killed himself. It's really sad.
I wouldn't call him a "man"
Since he's over 18, he'd be considered a man. I don't think he'd be a teenager.
In response to Tylerdude4
And his comment somehow went over your head. We don't regard people that do things so horrible as people, they're monsters.
In response to Magicsofa
Magicsofa wrote:
I wouldn't call him a "man"

Why is this being discussed here? I'm sure everyone knows about it. We don't need to be informed about it everywhere we go. It's a tragic story, leave it at that.
The real root problem with things like this is the fact that the social media covers it so heavily on media outlets such that the people who have mental problems see they too could become the next big anti-hero. The real solution to the problem is to stop blasting this garbage on the news and to put more time, care, and money into mental health care.

http://youtu.be/PezlFNTGWv4?t=1m38s
people even make arguments on a event so dispairable that many people died in the situation? ohh my God, not manly neither.

anyway stuff happens like this all over the world all the time it's just hitting home.
In response to NNAAAAHH
NNAAAAHH wrote:
And his comment somehow went over your head. We don't regard people that do things so horrible as people, they're monsters.

Maybe if that "monster" had gotten proper mental health care, he wouldn't have killed people.
In response to Warlord Fred
OK, so you're defending the actions taken due to not being mentally stable? I'm sure Hitler wasn't completely there in the head, if he had just a little help, he'd be a great guy! I mean, come on, he thought aliens were helping him and had a entire team dedicated to all things supernatural and believed there was one supreme race, oh look, the KKK aren't so bad either. If only there were ways to get these people proper care.
In response to NNAAAAHH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
In response to Boxcar
Don't see the purpose you have in posting this. Are you saying that the comparison isn't correct? Because I find a comparison of someone mentally unstable massacring innocent people to a group of people who are mentally unstable that have massacred innocent people oddly accurate. Or were you just pointing out that I made the comparison? Cause then, there's still no need for it. I could make a million more; Do you think Jack the Ripper was mentally stable while he cut up women in such horrible ways? His final known victim was so gruesomely done that the officers that were present when the body was found either eventually committed suicide or suffered from nightmares the remainder of their lives. A little mental help could have easily fixed his issues, according to Fred there.

If a person ever gets to the point of going so far as to massacre innocent people in any fashion, or those whom may not be innocent in such a horrible fashion; then I don't think any kind of 'mental help' would've prevented much, MAYBE delayed it. You would find yourself hard-pressed to find a serial killer/mass murderer that has been mentally stable.
In response to NNAAAAHH
I agree with you your comparisons hit the spot.
People and guns in general don't mix. It has little to do with mental illness. His mother was the one who taught him how to use the weapons and she didn't have a mental illness. She is the true monster here. Mental illness or not, all of this could've been avoided if his mother wasn't obsessed with firearms.

She learned the hard way that when you live by the sword, you die by it.
In response to EmpirezTeam
EmpirezTeam wrote:
People and guns in general don't mix. It has little to do with mental illness. His mother was the one who taught him how to use the weapons and she didn't have a mental illness. She is the true monster here. Mental illness or not, all of this could've been avoided if his mother wasn't obsessed with firearms.

She learned the hard way that when you live by the sword, you die by it.

Would you not agree that obsession (to firearms) and teaching your children to share this obsession with you is classified as a mental illness, even if only a distant relative of insanity?
In response to FIREking
I would.
I consider mental illness things like ADHD, bipolar, that type of thing. A fascination over guns and shooting things, while harmful, is not something I consider a mental illness.

I would just classify this as a very bad characteristic and possibly a lack of morals, but not a mental illness. His mother wasn't mentally ill, she was just apparently in love with violence and thought she was doing her son a favor by teaching him how to "defend himself" when really she was raising a murderer and gave him the tools and knowledge he needed to carry out his shooting at the school.

The sad part about all this is that there are MANY mothers and fathers like this one. My Mom tells me all the time that her co-workers take their children to shooting ranges as well. I went to a restaurant a couple months ago and overheard a police officer bragging about the fact that his daughter knows how to use a gun and kill someone just in case someone ever breaks into their house. People cry and moan over gun rights, and this is what they turn around and do with them. Raise their little boys and girls to be killers. Their motto is "when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." They're too stupid to realize they are just as much of an outlaw as Adam.
Cloud Magic wrote:
In short, mental illness is EmpirezTeam

This.
In response to EmpirezTeam
I cannot and will not agree to this.
In response to NNAAAAHH
Nope not disagreeing with you, its just interesting because I read about this law only a week ago and now I see it everywhere.
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