Did I take a wrong turn or something?

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Jan 20 2011, 5:15 pm
Neblim wrote:
Magicbeast20 wrote:
Watch out guys, if you start to beat Neblim in an argument he'll make a huge rant, delete any comments against him, and leave BYOND for a couple weeks.

How can they beat me in an argument on a subject they have nothing informative to counter it? The amount of someone on here with any real networking knowledge is most likely 1%, and that is probably Tom. Manage to say something factual and ACTUALLY informative on the subject, I'll openly listen and research it. So I implore you to rebuttal.

I don't feed trolls. Good day, sir.
Jan 20 2011, 5:36 pm
Neblim wrote:
How can they beat me in an argument on a subject they have nothing informative to counter it? The amount of someone on here with any real networking knowledge is most likely 1%, and that is probably Tom. Manage to say something factual and ACTUALLY informative on the subject, I'll openly listen and research it. So I implore you to rebuttal.

networking knowledge? so are we suddenly talking about the site's compression and whatnot, as with your blog post? then see the comment i made there for a response
Jan 20 2011, 6:03 pm
1.) This argument really doesn't require 'networking knowledge', as it's pretty obvious even to the slightly computer-literate that a 20KB file is 20KB, and it's not going to automagically decrease in size once it gets sent over broken up into several packets. Especially with the HTTP headers getting sent back and forth, that don't tend to negate data size.

2.) Zaole has extremely crippled DSL. It's no secret, and he's even posted in the forums about it.
Jan 20 2011, 6:26 pm
I can't really comment on the arguments others make too much, but I'll propose my own, I suppose:

I believe their time could be spent elsewhere other than optimizing the images, such as optimizing the dynamic content as Tom said. 5KB on a few images here and there (and that was your best case scenario from what I read) isn't going to make that much of a difference because the majority of people aren't on 56K anymore. It might help in the case of site updates where everyone is loading new images all at once, but generally people don't clear their cache as often as you seem to think. Yeah, you're right, fewer packets is better because you also have the additional TCP header data as well as the HTTP header data, but as previously stated, most people have moved on from 56KB and the savings from optimizing images is negligible enough to not be as concerned about them.

As for Zaole's connection, it's crippled somewhere between him and his ISP.
Jan 20 2011, 7:15 pm
Neblim, what are you doing here?

You failed to ever make a game using BYOND, and you certainly don't play them. You don't contribute, you have no plans to contribute, and you've made a huge deal out of rage quitting BYOND many, many times.

You only crawl back to BYOND when you want attention. Within a day or two you'll swear off BYOND again and delete your most recent blog post, and all of us will once again forget that you exist. Then, a few months from now you'll return to try and stir the pot again to get more attention.

...Attention from people who don't like or respect you at all. What kind of a messed up person are you?

Another thing worth mentioning while you're not in a place that you can delete comments:

Several months ago you made a huge deal about being banned from NEStalgia, then claimed that BYOND was censoring your complaints... yet in your own blog posts you delete any and all comments from people who disagree with you. On top of being a bipolar moron with serious neglect issues, you're also a hypocrite.

Do yourself and all of us a favor and just quit BYOND forever this time.
Jan 21 2011, 2:56 am
Silk, I think he still mad cos he subscribed den got bant from Nestalgia ololol

ToS FTW
Jan 21 2011, 7:32 am
... Really, another person complaining? Calm down, it's not your site.

The search bar is quite useful, you can search for Naruto if you really need to play the stupid Naruto games that plague BYOND.
Jan 21 2011, 7:46 am
The Magic Man wrote:
http://files.byondhome.com/TheMagicMan/BORDERS.jpg

Seriously, check them borders out.

...What about them?

I know some people (I wouldn't say a ton but I also wouldn't say very few) are using 1920-wide resolution, but basically zero websites are designing for that, either. As Silk pointed out, most sites nowadays use fixed width and are optimized into the 1000px range. I used to prefer the wider layout myself but I was forced to admit this fixed width confers a number of advantages, not the least of which is style standardization--I can actually plan for specific widths now, which was never possible before. I'm no fan of wasted space, but until the W3C comes up with a better plan for handling varying widths, this seems to be what the Web is stuck with.

Also, Opera is still the best web browser. Undisputed fact. Fastest, safest, most optimized. Why use an inferior product when the best exists?

Actually Opera's bestness is very widely disputed. And, I'd say, factually untrue in light of their scrolling bug. The scrolling issue you pointed out has no explanation at all that I could find, but the most likely culprit is the use of absolutely positioned elements and that the body is simply not growing to accommodate them (as the body should). Although that isn't new to the new blog layout, so maybe there's some other issue Opera is choking on. All I can say is, all other browsers are correctly gauging when a page is scrollable or not. If you can find any info on the bug and a possible workaround I'm happy to consider it, but they need to be made aware of the bug because it's most definitely on their end.

As for rendering speed and security, those are moving targets, but I've seen no particular evidence that Opera is the safest browser and quite a lot that it is by no means the fastest.
Jan 21 2011, 7:53 am
Neblim wrote:
But as far as deleting content, I just think blogs get stale after too long. Why I have to reason with someone like you of my actions to delete it is kind of useless though. You'll just derail this too and avoid my original post because you have nothing intelligent to add. For someone who is probably almost 30, you never grew up have you?

You're a child, aren't you? I don't want to get a part of this at all, but some of the things you are saying are outright ridiculous. I've read your old blog posts, and some of them were seemingly pointless unless you truly intended to be a worthless troll. If you were deleting to start anew, that's one thing. But you delete, and then you call BYOND "fat" or you say you are leaving forever, and then come back. You seem to be ashamed of your old doings, but then you keep on going about your business the same way you did a few months ago.
Jan 21 2011, 8:18 am
Neblim wrote:
Which reminds me, I spent enough time on this site (1 hour worth in the past day?) enough. Time to do some useful stuff.

That's a lot of writing to cram into 1 hour.

You'll be back to comment on this thread for as long as it runs: as I stated before, you're here for the attention.
Jan 21 2011, 8:29 am
Neblim wrote:
I do a lot more than the lot of people like yourself on here, just sitting and typing a blog post, ya know. Like work, school, reading technical articles on how to improve or understand something, draw, etc. Much better than programming in DM or blogging on this site for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, like a lot of the community.

I don't feel ashamed, just growing older and wiser to use certain things like this less and spend my spare time "growing" outside the community. Which reminds me, I spent enough time on this site (1 hour worth in the past day?) enough. Time to do some useful stuff. :)

Hm, considering I work full time and am a full time student, I don't know where you inferred this is what I do all day. I do get alerts in my gmail, so I do respond occasionally. The majority of my free time, actually, isn't spent on the DM language - it's either, when not studying, learning a new language so when I hit University I'll be confident in excelling there, or salvaging the time I do get to spend with my friends.

So first, don't make silly assumptions just because you can't manage to come back with anything productive. As well, I'm not sure how much wiser you have gotten - considering your latest blog post previous to the one currently on your site (that you conveniently deleted) and your comments on this page (or any other members page, really), I'd be surprised to find out you were any older than 15 years old.
Jan 21 2011, 10:27 am
Lummox JR wrote:

Actually Opera's bestness is very widely disputed. And, I'd say, factually untrue in light of their scrolling bug. The scrolling issue you pointed out has no explanation at all that I could find, but the most likely culprit is the use of absolutely positioned elements and that the body is simply not growing to accommodate them (as the body should). Although that isn't new to the new blog layout, so maybe there's some other issue Opera is choking on. All I can say is, all other browsers are correctly gauging when a page is scrollable or not. If you can find any info on the bug and a possible workaround I'm happy to consider it, but they need to be made aware of the bug because it's most definitely on their end.

As for rendering speed and security, those are moving targets, but I've seen no particular evidence that Opera is the safest browser and quite a lot that it is by no means the fastest.

The scrolling error is probably not a bug with Opera. Opera uses strict web standards, and does not make it's own up, like other web browsers do.

This leads to lots of problems with people only designing a website to be viewed in one web browser, and using that web browsers custom standards, which may or may not work properly in other web browsers.

I don't know where you learned web design, but this is one of the fundamental mistakes people often make.

As far as I am aware, Opera is also one of the only browsers with 100% compliance to CSS. I know it can pass the Acid3 test with 100% marks, something most other web browsers (firefox and internet explorer) do not do.

As far as speed goes. All the tests show it is indeed the fastest (on the whole) web browser currently available. Those tests being Slickspeed, SunSpider, V8 Benchmark Suite and Dromaeo.

As for security. Currently there is 0 known security issues with Opera 11. You can't get safer than that.
Jan 21 2011, 10:45 am
Hm. I've never once had an issue with Chrome or Firefox, and I have had exceedingly quicker load times with both of those than I have had with Opera.
Jan 21 2011, 2:27 pm
chrome is really the browser of choice nowadays, firefox is for people who just can't let some things go, and opera is for elitist computer junkies really. i like opera, its a great browser, but it is too bulky and complicated for most people. chrome is simple, no frills, no bullshit, just browsing.
Jan 22 2011, 11:31 am
Exactly - I also feel Opera is just doing too much.
Jan 23 2011, 10:03 pm
The Magic Man wrote:
The scrolling error is probably not a bug with Opera. Opera uses strict web standards, and does not make it's own up, like other web browsers do.

The page should scroll to fit its content; it does not. This only happens in Opera, and if the cause is what I think it is then there is no possible workaround. Claims of 100% CSS compliance are therefore a little overwrought. The body should always, always, always expand to fit any absolutely positioned elements. Otherwise it's impossible to use absolute positioning for proper layout purposes, making CSS itself useless. Since one of the whole points of the CSS layout module is to allow just that, Opera's behavior is flat-out wrong.

Now perhaps the ultimate fault lies with the W3C for not specifying outright that the body should expand to fit its content, but regardless it's still a bug on Opera's end, so it should be reported to them.
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