Only showing members won't be all that helpful for someone who doesn't know how the rankings work, and for someone who does it's pointless. If the goal is to show that only members count, then explaining that somewhere on the hub would probably be a better solution (if that's not already done). That said, maybe nonmembers could be hidden by default, with a link to show them, similar to the 'See List' link next to the player count on server listings. Also, I don't see how your explanation applies to fans of members' pages.

There is a somewhat-workaround towards this. You can use a system that would scan the page that lists the fans yourself.

That way Lummox and Tom don't have to throw around new procedures all the time.

Lummox JR wrote:

This would somewhat defeat the purpose, which is to point out that it's the Member fans who really count.

Considering there have been multiple complaints about this in the short time since it has come out, I would say something needs to be done. If you want to point out that member fans are the only ones who matter, then do so. The current system doesn't get that point across, it just looks like a fail at displaying the entire list. It could be something as simple as "x of y fans are members", though personally I'd prefer something very direct saying YOU AREN'T A MEMBER, SO YOU DON'T MATTER, and still displaying the list of those who don't.

I didn't even see that line of text until you pointed it out. The page is a somewhat unorganized list of graphical icons, so its easy to overlook. As with several other pages on the new site, its missing separation. The simplest change would probably be to put that message inside a dark gray header, with an outline dropping around the list of members. Instead of just saying "These members are fans", it should display a specific member count. I also think it should at least say something like '# non-members are also fans', if not list them entirely, below the members.

SuperAntx wrote:

Non-member fans should be a separate list under the Members.

I'm not sure why the staff is making a fuss about where the non-members would be listed. It's like they're intentionally withholding this because they think that being listed as a fan is a membership perk. Not listing non-members doesn't hurt the non-members, they're not the ones saying "we should be listed as fans!". It hurts the people whose work is being appreciated because I have no idea who all of the fans are. That's why we (the people who are members and have work that people have become fans of) are asking for all fans to be listed.

This is one of those times where the feature request is exactly as simple as it sounds.

To be honest it's no big deal whether or not I see them on the actual fan page. I would just like to at least be able to pull up a list of all fans from within my games.

By everyone you mean me specifically, right? Because I'm the only one who posted after Tom's comment.

Just saying it really isn't a big deal to load up every single fan on the actual page. I'd just like to be able to pull a full list in plain text mode.

I wasn't aware of the potential problems related to loading up thousands of players. The feature hasn't been implemented yet so it's never too late to discuss alternatives.