My friend works Drive-Thru at KFC. Shes had some wierd crap happen to her.
One time some freak waited til she got off work and tried to follow her home. She managed to get away since he didnt try and thing (There where some people on the other side of the street so he couldnt)
Then the next week he tried it again, which I figured he would. So I followed her aswell making sure he didnt see me.
He started to try something, and well, he wont be going to KFC for a while, at least not until his back on solids. >=)
-DogMan

Dareb wrote:

Kudos, the world needs vigilantes, and im serious.

There should be no need for vigilantes. I should have never had to go down there in the first place.
-DogMan

So you think that execution is wrong, but wounding someone to the point of almost dead is right? Isn't that worse than death just about to experience such pain?

not really, because they arn't asking you to kill them. Anyways you either go for life or execution for killing someone, you only get some years if caught wounding them to the near point of death.

But what if a person willingly accepts a death sentence? Or what if they choose to get the death penalty?

In this case the criminal could have easily escaped, and not been put to death. He would have escaped before getting captured.

And after that, I almost accidently gave this lady a free coke. She said, "What's that?" and I said "A Dr. Pepper". She then said.... "No thanks." I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!

I know. Turning down Dr. Pepper--what the hell? I mean, sure, your customer base at McDonalds isn't known for its taste to begin with, but geez.

I find that hard to believe. You had many options, you just chose to ignore them. Your presence alone would have been enough to turn the guy away, as you stated he didn't try anything when other people were around. You chose to hide yourself from him so you could beat him. Did you try notifing the local authorities about this guy before taking matters into your own hands?

~X

Dog Man wrote:

Xooxer wrote:

I find that hard to believe. You had many options, you just chose to ignore them. Your presence alone would have been enough to turn the guy away, as you stated he didn't try anything when other people were around.

Yes, point being, he was there the next week, so whats to stop him from showing up again.

Not beating the guy sensless. I'm surprised he hasn't pressed charges against you. He is within his rights to do so.

Did you try notifing the local authorities about this guy before taking matters into your own hands?

I didnt, but my friend did. And basically nothing could be done because he didnt actually do anything.

The police can't do anything about nothing, that's true. Unless a crime is commited, the police really have nothing to go on. What your friend and you should have done was to follow up with a report, and evidence (video is best) that this guy is stalking your friend. Eventually she would have been able to get an order of protection, forbiding the guy to come within a certain distance of her. While you wait for that to happen, you personally escort her home at night, or provide her with alternate means of transportation. If you're lucky, the guy'll get nervous and split for good, otherwise, he'll end up violating the order of protection, which would then be a crime, after which the police can take care of him.

Stalkers are very scary, yes, and also very hard to handle, legally. That doesn't give you the right to beat the guy, though. It takes a lot of work to put the guy away, but if you're really a friend, you would do what needed to be done legally. For all you know, this guy may just have gotten off work at the same time as your friend, and happen to be in the area becuase of that.

I suspect you had an alterior motive, but I'll hold my tounge. It's not wise to assume you know another's intentions.

~X

Same thing that motivates just about every man to do crazy things they know they really shouldn't do. Chix dig a man with ba- erm, confidence. ;)

Anyways, it doesn't really matter what your motivations were, or his, for that matter. The end result was him sippin' through a straw, and your friend feeling a bit safer. I'm glad the guy's been dealt with, please don't think I'm some uppity snot becuase of this little lecture. I'm just trying to show that violence is not the only answer, although it may seem the only one at the time.

~X

I agree that the world needs more vigilantes. Someone should've been standing there behind Dog Man, ready to break his arms after he beat up the stalker. Then another vigilante needed to kick the crap out of the second vigilante, and so on.

If the stalker guy goes to his tougher friends and told them, "I didn't do anything wrong!" and they take revenge, why wouldn't that be just? Technically, it would be true, since he was stopped before he could do something. I'm not saying that he wouldn't have. I'm glad he was stopped. Dog Man did it the wrong way.

He says the police wouldn't do anything... I doubt that's not just because the guy was stopped before he did anything. It's probably more about how he was stopped. If they go after the guy, he would just turn around and press charges against Dog Man, so the girl would have to choose between dropping her charges or see Dog Man getting charged with assault and battery. Police see this happen... they know it's pointless to go after the guy.

The other problem with vigilantes is, who gets to decide when breaking the law is justified? If I feel my employer cheated me out of a paid day off, am I entitled to break into the store and steal an item of worth equivalent to my daily paycheck, or should I just have the guy beaten? Which is more just? Hey, what if the would-be stalker goes to a local "do-gooder" and convinces him that he was beaten by an overprotective friend of someone he was just walking past on the street, and the "vigilante" beats up Dog Man? There's no courts or rules that bind a vigilante, no dependence on evidence and no concept of innocence until proven guilty, so it's easy to make a mistake like this.