I can't believe it! How could the RIAA be denying us the right to free speech (in a way)! Music is our way of getting out of it! I just heard on the news that they had sued a 12 year old girl!
And you know what really ticks me off? I just got a highspeed connection! So...now that I have a high speed connection, I can't download Linkin Park or System of a Down?! Jeez...I'm sick of people these days.
What do you guys think? I'm off to download an IP blocker and I'm gonna block RIAA...and/or I might come up with a phony user name and address and use that to Download.
-- Tiko
Viva la Resistance! Burn the RIAA!
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 Sep 9 2003, 2:10 pm
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Sep 9 2003, 2:16 pm (Edited on Sep 9 2003, 5:20 pm)
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Branks
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Buahahahahahaha, freedom of speech? what is that?
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What do you guys think? I'm off to download an IP blocker and I'm gonna block RIAA...and/or I might come up with a phony user name and address and use that to Download. IP Blocker? That's not how it works. The RIAA uses programs to check what people are sharing and if any files match up with the one on thier database they then store your IP. With your IP they can then go to your ISP and figure out who and where you live. It's as simple as that so if you don't want to get caught don't share files. | |
To put it simple, dont share, and you have little to worrie about, they dont go after the ticks, they go after the dogs.
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Your taking a risk when you download music. Not really you only are at risk when sharing music since all it takes is a program to poll the p2p network to look for offenders. It's much harder to track all the actual downloads without infringing laws. Legally, your not supposed to, so she was dumb enough to get caught... Well it's only been recently illegal. It was one of the dumb laws Clinton passed in 1998 called the DMCA(http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf) that made it illegal. | |
Not another one of these anti-RIAA posts... They are just doing there jobs, complaining about them isnt going to do anything, and the chances are no one is going to download anymore/anyless then before.
Also, dont hide behind your rights. When it was decided that we would have freedom of speech, they wouldnt have had this stuff in mind. I really get sick of people "knowing there rights". | |
Theodis wrote:
Your taking a risk when you download music. And the point that it might not be illegal after all, thanks to the 1992 Audio Home Recording Act (AHRA). To sum it up: no lawsuit may be brought that alleges copyright infringement based on the "noncommercial use by a consumer of such a (digital audio recording device) or medium for making digital musical recordings. http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap10.html (I did not read up to see if the DMCA did amended anything that would change this, it does not seem so from what I’ve read) There’s also the "fair use" defense: "First, the alleged copyright infringer could have a valid "fair use" defense for file sharing. The defendant might have "wanted to analyze a certain song for a music theory class but (was) unable to find a copy anywhere else," said Megan Gray, an attorney in Washington, D.C., who specializes in intellectual property cases." http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-5073312.html?tag=cnetfd.buzz v Also our nice congress men and women will be having a nice talk with them soon too. It's far from over, Dont't forget they can very easly slip up, they have to go to cout now with a lot of unhappy people. (note: Techtv has a spical coming up on it) Frankly I think the RIAA is on there way out, And this is a last ditch effort by them to put more cash in there pockets. | |
There's a site called "RIAA Radar" you can use to find out whether a given album is produced by an RIAA member company. I can't get the site to work right now, but maybe it'll work later.
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Xzar wrote:
Frankly I think the RIAA is on there way out, And this is a last ditch effort by them to put more cash in there pockets. I really don't see what they're complaining about with "loss of profits". Okay, well, I do see what they're complaining about, but it's not like they're losing money. Awwww diddums, your profit just slipped by a few percent did it? Awwwww nooooo! -_- Viva la Revolution! CDs at $5 Australian for everyone! The proletariat shall control the means of... of... something. Anyway, if anyone knows anyone who's planning to release music CDs, tell them not to go through the RIAA, do it themselves. Follow Skysaw's example! =) | |
I say if bands truly want to make a profit, they sell their CDs cheaper, or put demos on their website. It is ridicculous that you can be charged $5,000 PER SONG that is copyrighted that they find on your computer, $5,000! U.S. law should not be dictating what can and cannot be done on the world-wide-web. The only right they have is to doctrine the people that run the websites/software that live in the U.S. Hey, I've got an idea why don't we ban the internet altogether! That'll solve the problem! (Stabs self in face)
The RIAA is just trying to make an exapmle, the fines will be reduced soon enough... Christ, whats next, monitoring people who own CD burners? | |
Ter13 wrote:
Christ, whats next, monitoring people who own CD burners? The sad thing is, I can just see that happening. | |
They are just doing there jobs, complaining about them isnt going to do anything, Here's what I say: Everyone who is serious about stopping the RIAA, protest with firearms (although don't fire). Any without firearms can hold a stick or chair leg, maybe even a sign. The goal is to not really shoot anyone, but let the country know your pissed, despite what happens, it'll make front page news and they may have to think things over. | |
Earlier the RIAA had charged someone(I forget the exact reason though), and asked for compensation depending on something like "the equivalent of 400 cd burners". I forget the exact number, except that it was really high. They got their number by calculating that each 1x of speed on a cd burner constitued a seperate buener.
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The RIAA is just taking advantage of parts of laws that wouldn't exist except for lobbying by corporations and groups like the RIAA. They sue people for thousands and thousands of dollars for the euqivalent of what you could buy off of music sites like iTunes for $0.99. They keep on claiming absolutely outrageous damages and the judges, for some strange reason, keep listening to them.
Lots of their charges are just nutty too. They sued this one 19 year old college student because he created a SEARCH ENGINE, that doesn't have anything to do specifically with music, that searches his univeristy network. He settled, and there went his life savings. The RIAA normally charges a fee per song for radio stations to broadcast there music. Which is fine. With internet-based radio(webcasting), they also want to charge that same fee. Which also is fine. The problem is that they're increadibly greedy and are demanding payment per sond PER USER, which gets up to a large amount of money that a lot of internet radio stations are unable to pay. For example, they want 0.07 cents per song ($.0007), which may not seem like much. A radio station would probably end up playing about 10,000 songs a month, costing them 7$. Except that the RIAA is greedy and wants payment per user. If just 100 people are listening you're up to $700/month. Basically RIAA are scum, and there's a perfectly good reason for all these posts. | |
The DMCA is evil, messed up legal scum that has no point except to rid people of rights, and make the rights of corporations more important than the rights of the person.
And to get big companies more money. Lots more money. http://www.anti-dmca.org | |
Put yourselves in the position of the people making the music you enjoy every day. Now, think about how because a program that allows millions of illegal copies of your music, you are not getting the money you deserve.
I say down with KaZaA. It is the internet's black market, and there is plenty of other ways to get legal things. | |
First of all, no one has a right to get mad someone is finally taking a stand on MP3s.
I do not believe that MP3s or Roms, or CD ISOs are ruining the market, I think its been the best it has ever been! I do download music and games, I know its wrong, I still do it. So do millions of other people each day, they know its wrong, if they get into trouble for it, they only have themselfs to cry to. 2ndly alot of my friends bitch cause they just bought a MP3 player. Excuse me, why dont you buy cd, and make MP3s you can legally own to use on your MP3 player? Rebel? Rebel my ass man. We have nothing to rebel agast | |
They are losing money, if they weren't they wouldn't have a problem with it. It may not be ruining the market, but it is hurting the record industry.
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People try to make anti-RIAA sound all pure and good. This isnt an attempt to make money. Naturally they are after some money, but they dont really expect to get the $500,000 from 14 year olds. They are trying to make you fear breaking the law online.
No one pays attention to the laws online because they know they arent going to get in any trouble for breaking them. I feel bad for the people loosing there money, but its like complaining when someone beats you up for picking their pocket. | |
Put yourselves in the position of the people making the music you enjoy every day. Now, think about how because a program that allows millions of illegal copies of your music, you are not getting the money you deserve. The RIAA screws the customer and the artist. The RIAA has been price fixing for awhile charging ridiculus prices for CDs which aren't hard to make. I wouldn't mind paying a hefty fee if I knew the artist was getting a good share of it but sadly the artists make very little from CD sales most of the profit just goes to the RIAA. Music artists actually make most of thier money from concerts so chances are music sharing is aiding them since chances are more people listen to thier music and more people want to see them live. I say down with KaZaA. It is the internet's black market, and there is plenty of other ways to get legal things. Kazaa and other P2P programs have gotten thier infamey mainly from thier illegal uses, but Kazaa is an excellent way to get a patch for a program when all the other sources to get the patch are cloged up from internet traffic. This a perfectly legal and perfectly reasonable use of Kazaa. It's great for sharing public domain files and anything else that is legal. And guess what this isn't the first time in history something like this has happined. 25 years ago VCRs had big legal problems since they could be used in illegal fashions. http://www.sony.net/Fun/SH/1-31/h1.html | |