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Can't afford them? I mean they are about £30 ($40) over here. I just realiused my local library has hundreds, so why buy when you can loan for free! :)
I got JAVA in a nutshell (About a 1000 pages... >.> not ver nutshell-ey) for a month, should be smooth reading! Its like the newest version too.
So if you want to learn a new langauge but can't be bothered buying a book goto the library.
GREAT idea Maz. The library totally slipped my mind! (I wonder why >.>) /me goes to the library to find "Programming Windows", thanks Theodis!

<-Airjoe->
In response to Airjoe
All of my library's computer books are either 5 years out of date (at least), or are about things I already know... like HTML. =(

That's the public library though (it's government-funded, allegedly; one wonders why they never have enough money to employ more than 3 staff at a time for each branch). University libraries and such have more, but you need to be a uni student to borrow from them.
In response to Crispy
All of my library's computer books are either 5 years out of date (at least), or are about things I already know... like HTML. =(

Yeah the last normal library I went to only had books on archaic versions on BASIC that required line numbers :P.
In response to Crispy
Try the library at your school, my college has about 10-20 programming books, though I was being haunted by the half-geeks who happened to be in the library at the time so I scanned them, stole the Java book and fleed before they had chance to see them. They are precious to me...
In response to Theodis
My city has one of the largest libraries in the country, and even the small branches have up to date books on almost everything.

The main branch has one of the top geneology sections on the world, I have no idea why, but they do. They are currently remodeling the main branch, adding underground parking and a lot more space for books.
In response to Crispy
That's the public library though (it's government-funded, allegedly; one wonders why they never have enough money to employ more than 3 staff at a time for each branch). University libraries and such have more, but you need to be a uni student to borrow from them.

Two things you might consider:

1) Nowadays many libraries (at least here in Ohio, USA) have agreements to ship books to one another when patrons request them. Ask your librarian if that's possible.

2) When I attended Hiram (a teeny college), I was able to check books out of the library at Kent State University (a hefty and well-known college). I suspect that you can arrange to check books out of a given university's library if you take the time to talk to someone with academic connections, like a trusted high school teacher/counselor or an alumnus of the university.
In response to Maz
You could always check out all their programming books, and uhhh... forget to return them or even visit that library ever again.
In response to Gughunter
Gughunter wrote:
1) Nowadays many libraries (at least here in Ohio, USA) have agreements to ship books to one another when patrons request them. Ask your librarian if that's possible.

The public library system works a little like that, in the sense that you can request books from other public libraries. Unfortunately, the entire system has a lack of computing books; and the private libraries (mostly at schools, colleges, and universities) don't tend to give up their books easily.

2) When I attended Hiram (a teeny college), I was able to check books out of the library at Kent State University (a hefty and well-known college).

I might be able to arrange something like that, but it's not really a big deal; I usually read stuff on the internet instead. =) I'm going to college in a week or so anyway; hopefully their library is a little more well-equipped than my old high school. (Note: This is college in the Australian sense, not university. My extremely sketchy knowledge of the US educational system suggests that you might call it senior high school or something similar.)
In response to Crispy
Yes we refer to universities as College. I take it this school is a one year affair, or are you just starting out at the higher level public school?


Just for your information, and maybe so you can sort it out:

kindergarten-5th grade is elementary school

6-7(sometimes 7-9) is middle, or jr high school

9-12(sometimes 10-12) is high school


I'm actually wondering how the educational system works over there.
In response to Crispy
Hey, Crispy - I've always wondered, how do you feel about that guy, Steve Irwin? I mean, he's pretty well known in the US, but how is he viewed over in his native country? =D

PS: What do you think of him cradling his baby under his arm while feeding a 2000 LBS Crocodile? =D
In response to Goku72
How many times has he died?

None.

So really, for someone that hasn't died, I'd say he has some idea of what's safe and what's not.
In response to Jotdaniel
In Australia it goes:
  • Kinder
  • Primary school (Prep (Aka grade 0) to grade 6)
  • High school (year 7 to year 12, with year 11 and 12 known as VCE)
  • University

    Some High schools split into two groups, year 7, 8, 9 and 10 on one campus, year 11 and 12 on another. That could be what Crispy is talking about.
    "Play group" is also pretty common before Kinder.
In response to Goku72
Goku72 wrote:
Hey, Crispy - I've always wondered, how do you feel about that guy, Steve Irwin? I mean, he's pretty well known in the US, but how is he viewed over in his native country? =D

He's an idiot. He may or may not know what he's doing (I tend to think he fakes at least some of his stunts), but he's still an idiot.

Of course, there are people in Australia who like him.

PS: What do you think of him cradling his baby under his arm while feeding a 2000 LBS Crocodile? =D

Like I said, he's an idiot. Please don't think all Australians are like that, because we're not.

I've actually never seen a crocodile in my life, except maybe at the zoo. But I've heard what they're capable of.
In response to Garthor
I sunbathe on the road outside my house. I haven't been run over yet, so obviously lying down on roads is safe.
In response to DarkView
It varies from state to state - one of the few things in Australia that does. The state governments have a lot less power than U.S. states do.

Where I live, it goes like this:

- Preschool (not compulsory, but a lot of people go to it)
- Kindergarten
- Primary school (year 1 to year 6)
- High school (year 7 to year 10)
- College (year 11 to year 12) <--this is what I'm starting in a week
- University
In response to Crispy
Crispy wrote:
I sunbathe on the road outside my house.

Looks like Crispy isn't as smart as we thought he was ;)
In response to Crispy
Walking across the street without looking would likely get me run over sooner or later, most likely sooner.

I've crossed the street many times, and haven't gotten run over yet.

It's potentially dangerous, but I know what I'm doing well enough for it not to be.
In response to Jotdaniel
Jotdaniel wrote:
Looks like Crispy isn't as smart as we thought he was ;)

Ha, ha. You know I don't really. =P

Garthor wrote:
Walking across the street without looking would likely get me run over sooner or later, most likely sooner.

I've crossed the street many times, and haven't gotten run over yet.

It's potentially dangerous, but I know what I'm doing well enough for it not to be.

I think holding a baby that close to a hungry crocodile while standing on slippery rocks and walking backwards is a little riskier than crossing the road.

Besides, did you see the entire clip? He actually held his baby less than a metre from the croc's open jaws, bending down so its legs were touching the ground. If the croc had lunged, that baby was toast. He wouldn't have been able to pull the baby out of the way in time.

Face it Garthor, it was a stupid, stupid thing for him to do.
In response to Crispy
Most of what people say about crocodiles is over draumatized. Like the belly roll thing, they don't do it until your dead, just until your knocked out. Then they drag you up to the surface and store you for a later meal, or perhaps take a piece of you with them to slate their hunger. They also usually wont attack you for no reason, unless they are running out of food and need a large supply. Thats mainly why this guy can go into those little crocodile farms and mess with them, because the crocodiles are well fed and know that if they mess with someone who feeds them, then the easy life is over. I'v owned 2 crocodiles and so far none of them have displayed these properties of aggressiveness and what not, though since they were in small containers they grew slowly. Hence their body lengths only reached about 5 feet before we had let them go.
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