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Apr 24 2004, 10:52 am
If you crash it wouldn't that be illegal?
Apr 24 2004, 11:02 am
Talk some sense man...
Apr 24 2004, 11:04 am
In response to Maz
Sense...Sense man...make some sense humans need sense.
Apr 24 2004, 11:14 am
In response to Kritz
Arthosa crashed Mobius Evalon's hard disk drive if thats his key isnt that illegal?
Apr 24 2004, 12:08 pm
In response to Farrarri
How could he possible accomplish that? You can't just crash someone's hard-drive through AIM, or whatever.

~Kujila
Apr 24 2004, 12:38 pm
In response to Kujila
Kujila wrote:
How could he possible accomplish that? You can't just crash someone's hard-drive through AIM, or whatever.

~Kujila

Not sure if u can crash someones hard drive, but you can mess with their computer through AIM. When you direct connect to someone it leaves a port open which with the right command line in AIM you can insert aq file onto their computer without them knowing it.
Apr 24 2004, 12:43 pm
In response to LilTrunks
LilTrunks wrote:
Not sure if u can crash someones hard drive, but you can mess with their computer through AIM. When you direct connect to someone it leaves a port open which with the right command line in AIM you can insert aq file onto their computer without them knowing it.

At least until AOL fixes that bug.
Apr 24 2004, 1:53 pm
In response to Jon88
Aol, fix something?
Apr 24 2004, 5:40 pm
In response to Jotdaniel
Well not through AIM, but he sends his bots through AIM and crasher Mobius and some of the Admins.
Apr 24 2004, 8:07 pm
In response to Farrarri
I doubt "bots" could "crash" a HDD.
Apr 24 2004, 8:45 pm
In response to Karasu Kami
Well, it depends. If there is an exploit in AIM that allows files to be run on a remote computer (note: not just placed, but RUN), and that file messes with, e.g. the FAT table, then yes, someone could do some serious damage to the file system using AIM. Which isn't the same as "crashing" the hard drive, because a format will fix it (except for the loss of data), but to the untrained eye there might not be much of a difference.

Back to the topic... I would imagine sabotaging someone else's computer would be illegal, yes. But everyone is innocent until proven guilty, and these things are extremely difficult to prove.
Apr 25 2004, 9:47 am
In response to Crispy
Crispy wrote:
Well, it depends. If there is an exploit in AIM that allows files to be run on a remote computer (note: not just placed, but RUN), and that file messes with, e.g. the FAT table, then yes, someone could do some serious damage to the file system using AIM. Which isn't the same as "crashing" the hard drive, because a format will fix it (except for the loss of data), but to the untrained eye there might not be much of a difference.

Back to the topic... I would imagine sabotaging someone else's computer would be illegal, yes. But everyone is innocent until proven guilty, and these things are extremely difficult to prove.


You mean: "Everyones guilty until proven innocent."
Apr 25 2004, 12:21 pm
In response to Karasu Kami
OMFG No! I did not say bots crashed his HDD! I am just mentioned AIM. BUT he doesn crash Mobius and his gm's on AIM with bots. The AIM itself no HDD!
Apr 25 2004, 4:02 pm
In response to Karasu Kami
Karasu Kami wrote:
You mean: "Everyones guilty until proven innocent."

How did I know someone would stamp on that comment? *rolls eyes* This is neither the time or the place for discussions of civil liberties and/or lack thereof.
Apr 25 2004, 6:58 pm
In response to Crispy
Though I don't speak for Karasau, he may have been inadvertaintly referring to the differences in laws between the US and certain other countries which I'm not sure of.. The difference being that in the US you are inocent until proven guilty, and many other countries, including the those in the UK, guilty until proven inocent. Another interesting difference, in Germany and probably other countries in the UK, if you lose a lawsuit you pay the winning party's court and lawyer fees, not so in the US.
Apr 25 2004, 8:59 pm
In response to Jerico2day
Jerico2day wrote:
Though I don't speak for Karasau, he may have been inadvertaintly referring to the differences in laws between the US and certain other countries which I'm not sure of.. The difference being that in the US you are inocent until proven guilty, and many other countries, including the those in the UK, guilty until proven inocent.

The UK?! If Australia has "innocent until proven guilty" (which it does), then I should hope the UK did as well. I hope you're mistaken on that one.

Another interesting difference, in Germany and probably other countries in the UK, if you lose a lawsuit you pay the winning party's court and lawyer fees, not so in the US.

That's what happens here.

I'm fairly sure he was making some comment about the justice system only following that rule in theory and not in practice. I could be wrong though.

But, as I said, this is not the thread to be debating this.
Apr 25 2004, 9:36 pm
In response to Crispy
Sorry, but i just want to answer the question, not drag it on. It can be closed afterwords ^^;.

Anyway, literally, in america, its guilty until proven innocent.

Seriously though, others may compare to other countries, but in our own little way...its horrible..i watch Court sessions and type them all out (Its a side job), so i know how things are.