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BYOND Programmers, Harkin unto me! If you have pay pal and you're able to program then this is the post for you.(if you don’t have pay pal other methods of payment can be arranged.) Here are the challenge specifics:

1) Challenge begins today, March 23, 2005.

2) You have 1 month to create an original game/work of your own and submit it to a challenge official for Judging. In order to be judged, your game/work must have an entry on the hub with a downloadable version for anyone to try. When your program is ready, please send an Email to [email protected] and I will have it judged. You may not use anything previously made, or something not made by yourself. If you have a group of people working together, the same applies, nothing before todays date, and you must have created everything from scratch (Graphics included!). The internet is a vast and mysterious place, and I have yet to search all of its crevices. So, we'll be using the Honor system.



3) Ending date is April 23, 2005.

4) There will be three awards given, Best Concept (10$), Best Game Play (10$), and our Overall Winner (30$).

5) If you’d like to participate in this competition, send an email to [email protected] or post in this thread.







Sorry to disappoint you, but usually the BYOND staff hosts competitions such as this when necessary. The prizes are usually much, much better than this, such as a free BYONDscape subscription. I do not know how you can judge/rate the games when you cannot view the source code and can only play it. The point is to send you the source code to see how it was coded, worked out, planned out, and how the gameplay is. To tell you the truth, I do not think you have the skill/experience to judge games at this point in time, so you are most likely just wasting your money.
In response to GokuDBZ3128
Oh well, better for us. :D
You know, a contest like this should more defined parameters. How can you judge a board game versus an RPG? There's no way. Give us some guidelines to follow, a type of game to make.

Personally, I think making board games would be an excellent contest, as we don't have nearly as much as we do RPGs, action, rips(urg.), etc.
In response to GokuDBZ3128
GokuDBZ3128 wrote:
Sorry to disappoint you, but usually the BYOND staff hosts competitions such as this when necessary. The prizes are usually much, much better than this, such as a free BYONDscape subscription. I do not know how you can judge/rate the games when you cannot view the source code and can only play it. The point is to send you the source code to see how it was coded, worked out, planned out, and how the gameplay is. To tell you the truth, I do not think you have the skill/experience to judge games at this point in time, so you are most likely just wasting your money.

I do not know how you can judge/rate the games when you cannot view the source code and can only play it. The point is to send you the source code to see how it was coded, worked out, planned out, and how the gameplay is.

So all of those magazines that review video games, they get the source code to them? Wow!

Just from the source code, you cannot see how it is planned out. And, you can more easily see what the gameplay is like from playing it.

Saying that something is a "good game" is based on what you'd see when you play it. If it is not programmed well, you may or may not be able to tell that just from playing the game. If you can tell that some aspects are poorly coded just by playing, then its detracting from the gameplay, and making it worse. But, it can still be fully-functional and play just fine without being programmed the best way possible.
In response to Tiko
Tiko wrote:
Personally, I think making board games would be an excellent contest, as we don't have nearly as much as we do RPGs, action, rips(urg.), etc.

the idea behind a contest is to make good games. generally, there's a lack of good games around here for any genre. since there is a lack of all types of good games, then a contest for any type of game could be a good thing. heck, even a contest to make the best rip could be a good thing.

and if you just want a board game contest because you like board games and would like to see more, start working on a board game yourself =)
In response to OneFishDown
OneFishDown wrote:
heck, even a contest to make the best rip could be a good thing.

You should know, OFD. :P


But like you said, sometimes it is a non-developer who can give the best verdict on how good a game really is.
In response to GokuDBZ3128
You could get 10 months of BYONDscape with that.
In response to GokuDBZ3128
Don't flame, if you dont like the contest ignore it. Also, how in the world does reading the source help you judge a game? <sarcasm>Oh his variables are all capitals, very creative!!</sarcasm>
In response to GokuDBZ3128
GokuDBZ3128 wrote:
Sorry to disappoint you, but usually the BYOND staff hosts competitions such as this when necessary.

No they don't. The BYONDscape 4k challenge, in fact, was actually inspired by the large amount of contests going on in the forums.

The prizes are usually much, much better than this, such as a free BYONDscape subscription.

A month-long BYONDscape subscription costs one dollar. Ten dollars, therefore, can get you ten months of subscription, and thirty dollars can get you two years and four months!

I do not know how you can judge/rate the games when you cannot view the source code and can only play it.

Videogame magazines do it all the time. He can judge the entries by how much fun he has playing them.

The point is to send you the source code to see how it was coded, worked out, planned out, and how the gameplay is.

The "point" of this contest is to inspire the creation of great games.
In response to GokuDBZ3128
Goku, how can a one dollar subscription be "much, much better" than 10 or even 30 dollars?
I'm very surprised you're being so rude to him for doing something like this. If he's the one paying the money, then HE's the judge, and he determines how good the game is by his own terms. if you make a game and he thinks it isn't good enough to win, it's not like he's gonna delete your game and all work you did with it.

Personally, I'm very glad he's having something like this. He's offering generous sums of money for anyone who can help the welfare of BYOND by making a good game. What's so bad about this?
In response to GokuDBZ3128
I hardly ever see contests, and there needs to be more of them.
In response to Tiko
Tiko is right. Narrow it down to at least a genre at the widest.
Like Tiko said, you should narrow it down. Probably the section suffering the most from lack of good games would be RPG (which of course is open for interpretation, this is my oppinion), but those would take too long to make... So probably the best bet would be an action game contest. Our number of decent action games is quite low, and don't give a very broad range of different styles.

Arcade already had a contest, so they are already set.

RPG would require waaaay too long for the contest to be running.

Strategy is such an up-tight channel that just about every game that goes in it is pretty good or exceptionally better than most games on BYOND.

Board games already had a contest, and although we would benifit from more well known board games, not enough people will want to make them (although a couple MAYBE might.), because it's too much of an unpopular genre. Under action though, this would probably be best bet: Well-known board games.

Card games are an extremely unpopular genre, with our current crowds at the moment, anyways, and most people have no clue how to make a card game (Even though I released a template to help teach them.), and although they are quick to make, mechanics can be extremely tedious... Therefore, you'd get very few who'd want to participate in this.

Very, very few people enjoy more dice games than yatzee, which has already been made, and even that isnt too popular, so this is just a bad genre for it.

Although puzzle games might get a few people doing it, there usually isnt too much motivation to make one of these because a very, very small percentage of people will play it. Although, some smart people enjoy these games a lot, and we do have a slight lack of them, so I'd say this would be number 3.

Looking through it now, there are quite a few decent games, but there is still more sub-genres to be claimed within Action.
In response to Tiko
Let creativity be your guide. As for myself, and my panel of judges, we have guidelines that we will be judging by.
In response to OneFishDown
Overall, does anyone think there will be more than 10 project entries? I just want to know if there is enough interest because I don't want to hand out 30 dollars to one person becuase they were the only one who submitted work.
In response to WoePoet
Can I submit something I've been working on and off XD.
I'm interested in joining this contest. Are we allowed to have multiple members working on the game? IE: One programmer one icon-artist.
In response to GokuDBZ3128
Yeah, I can't view the source code of Half Life 2, therefor I cannot make a judgment as to whether the game is good or not.

~Kujila
In response to Dession
Yes, but their names must be included with yours.
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