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I want one of the two, and have enough money for both. This is what I have to back up both, Ipod hold more songs, is smaller, lighter and comes with warentee (sp?). PSP plays dvds, [less] music, games, music videos. Costs 50 dollers less, but cost more if you buy games or other things needed (memory chips). What do you guys think?
iPods suck. Completely

If you're not going to get the PSP, don't get an iPod.
Get a Dell DJ. I love mine.
In response to Airjoe
Or a 300 mhz laptop off the internet... put Linux on it and away you go.

~Kujila
In response to Kujila
I would get a PSP, since you can get the memory duo sticks in a size from 32MB to 1 Gig.

Thats more then enough to carry pirated movies, music and games on it.

Not to mention the development aspects, I cant wait until people start to dev. emulators for that thing. Chrono trigger in my pocket? hell yes.

Ipods are crap. End of story. =/
In response to Airjoe
Airjoe wrote:
iPods suck. Completely

Out of curiosity, what are your reasons for saying this? Both you and Shades say iPods are crap without giving any reasons why.

Just to offer a dissenting opinion, I've had one for 2 years and love it. It's a music lover's dream, being able to carry your entire collection around with you. I have one and only one complaint, and it's something that 99.9% of consumers probably wouldn't even notice - there's sometimes a small gap in between songs. This is only noticeable when playing an album straight through with tracks that run into each other with no audio break.

Dell, Rio, Creative, iRiver, etc, all have fine offerings as competition for the iPod. They pack more features, sometimes at lower prices, so if that does it for you, then cool, buy that. The iPod has less features, but for people who aren't buying due to popularity (which admittedly accounts for a huge portion of the iPod's sales), it's all about the usability. That's how it became popular in the first place (you know it's true, because normally stuff from Apple enjoys a 3% market share at best).

I've been wanting a player with gapless playback (I'm in the 0.1% who care about that) so I've been researching other players, but nothing comes close to the iPod in ease of use and integration with your music library. THAT's what sucks about the iPod - it's too nice so I can't bear to use something else. :)
This really depends on what you want.

The PSP isn't really that great for playing music because memory cards for it are very expensive right now.

So, if you want lots of space for a lot of MP3s, you'll want a iPod. If you want handheld gaming device that can play music and videos, get a PSP.
In response to Repiv
Ipods are just as expensive.
In response to Shades
Shades wrote:
Ipods are just as expensive.

20GB iPod = $300*
PSP = $250
1GB Memory Stick for PSP = $150

*Source: newegg
In response to Mike H
Mike H wrote:
Just to offer a dissenting opinion, I've had one for 2 years and love it. It's a music lover's dream, being able to carry your entire collection around with you. I have one and only one complaint, and it's something that 99.9% of consumers probably wouldn't even notice - there's sometimes a small gap in between songs. This is only noticeable when playing an album straight through with tracks that run into each other with no audio break.


I noticed this when listening to Scenes from a memory and other albums where the songs are meant to flow together. That doesn't bug me that much though, as I normally listen to it on shuffle anyway.

I bought mine on ebay for 210 dollars. It's a 20 gig, 2nd generation iPod, and it came with a cover, a sports case, a firewire card for my computer, and an iTrip for listening to it on my car radio (VERY awesome). Shipping was free. I'm extremely happy with the purchase. I'm actually thinking of getting a new iPod and giving this one to my girl friend, because she really likes it too. I wish apple would combine all 3 available iPods (discluding the mini) into one. There is no need to make an iPod photo, and iPod shuffle, and the regular iPod. I like the features each one offers, but I would never buy all 3 of them.
In response to Ebonshadow
I think what he needs to ask himself is this...

Does he want to pay $300+ for a music player?

Or pay around the same amount for a multi-media player, which supports much more then just mp3s.
In response to Shades
If somoene is interested in buying something just for music, why buy something that has 35 other things as well? There's still also the fees of the memory sticks on the PSP, too.

Anyhow, if someones wants to have a carry-around for music I would say the PSP is not even in the menu. It's much larger, and I don't know how it works, but I doubt it would be as easy to switch between songs without actually looking at it. The IPod is small enough to fit in your pocket and light enough not to cause a fuss. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't buy either the PSP or the IPod simply because I don't have the money and neither appeal to me very much.
In response to Mike H
Mike H wrote:
Airjoe wrote:
iPods suck. Completely

Out of curiosity, what are your reasons for saying this? Both you and Shades say iPods are crap without giving any reasons why.

I used to have an iPod. At the time, their software didn't support Windows 98 (I have no clue whether it does now, and I don't really care). I upgraded to a newer version of Windows like a fool, and within a month, my computer was toast. All of the mp3s on my secondary hard drive were scrambled. I know that this was due to a virus and not the iPod itself, but I would not have had this problem to begin with had the iPod supported Windows 98 (like the sales representative said it would). I sold my iPod to a friend of mine for $100 and consider myself lucky to be rid of it. Hopefully he had better luck with it than I did.

Despite what the sales rep told me, I could never get my iPod to work as a storage device (i.e. - I could never download anything from the iPod back to my computer.). I would suggest getting Sony's mp3 player instead. It doesn't require all of Apple's BS components for compatibility, and it can be used as a file storage device.
In response to Gakumerasara
Sounds like a case of a bad salesman not a bad iPod. I'm stuck on Windows ME (which iTunes doesn't support), but I managed to get my mini working through WinAmp.
I don't think the Windows 98 problem is as simple, but I'm pretty sure I seen a ton of guides to setting up an iPod with Win98 when I was trying to set mine up.

Getting it to work as a storage device is pretty easy. I'll admit I've only ever transported a few photos with it, but it wasn't hard.
I've got a USB memory stick so it wasn't a selling point.
In response to Shades
Shades wrote:
I think what he needs to ask himself is this...

Does he want to pay $300+ for a music player?

Or pay around the same amount for a multi-media player, which supports much more then just mp3s.

I just said that I only spent $210, not $300+. $210 got me the iPod plus tons of extras.
The PSP plays DVDs? I thought it played Sony's UMD format. I would not suggest one if the focus is on collecting media. [Edit: Er... I mean the non-interactive kind.]
In response to Shades
Ipods are awesomeness

~Kujila
In response to Mike H
Mike H wrote:
Airjoe wrote:
iPods suck. Completely

Out of curiosity, what are your reasons for saying this? Both you and Shades say iPods are crap without giving any reasons why.

I've seen plenty of reviews, on the internet and on TV, pointing out many problems with the iPod and apple. On most of them, the battery will not hold a full charge after 2 or 3 months. When you send it back, they might not give you your iPod back, but a refurbed one instead. They had it on CBS' "Shame on You" segment.
One of my friends recently had to send hers back. She said she didn't mind, but she was without it for over a week.

Quote her livejournal:
"<font color=blue>alright so my old ipodmini broke. The battery was all [messed] up. Like it wouldn't fully charge and it would say it has a high battery and then 2 sec later it'd say low battery alert and shut off. yeah I was piiissed. So I sent it back to apple to get it fixed. I didn't even have to pay for shipping or any of that. They sent my package to me.. all I had to do was open it, put the ipod mini in the package, tape it, and peel off the sender thing (with all the adress and name and things like that) and mine was right underneath! they even provided tape to tape up the damn package! </font>"


She was without it for over a week though.
I've never had a problem with my Dell DJ.

Just to offer a dissenting opinion, I've had one for 2 years and love it. It's a music lover's dream, being able to carry your entire collection around with you. I have one and only one complaint, and it's something that 99.9% of consumers probably wouldn't even notice - there's sometimes a small gap in between songs. This is only noticeable when playing an album straight through with tracks that run into each other with no audio break.


That's great. I'm sure they can't screw up all the iPods, so you got lucky ;-)
Dell, Rio, Creative, iRiver, etc, all have fine offerings as competition for the iPod. They pack more features, sometimes at lower prices

Yeah, my 20GB dell DJ cost the same that the 4GB iPod mini [used to, apparently they dropped the cost to compete with the new MP3 players].


The iPod has less features, but for people who aren't buying due to popularity (which admittedly accounts for a huge portion of the iPod's sales), it's all about the usability. That's how it became popular in the first place (you know it's true, because normally stuff from Apple enjoys a 3% market share at best).

I've been wanting a player with gapless playback (I'm in the 0.1% who care about that) so I've been researching other players, but nothing comes close to the iPod in ease of use and integration with your music library. THAT's what sucks about the iPod - it's too nice so I can't bear to use something else. :)


I'm glad to hear that you like your iPod. I don't know where I'd be without my DJ. THe only thing that could make it better would be if it had an alarm clock.
Nyck wrote:
PSP plays dvds

Actually, the PSP plays something called a "UMD" (Universal Media Disc). In my opinion, the UMD is Sony's newest way of making you by the same thing you already have but in a different format. They seem pretty fragile too.

Of course, if the games that are going to come out for the PSP interest you, then by all means, go for the PSP!

The iPod, in my opinion, is, for the average listener, a waste of $290. A discman only costs $10, and an iPod costs 300.

One might say that an iPod holds more music, which is underniably true, but discmen can play mp3s too, and a CD can hold about 200 of them. If you're going to routinely be listening to more than 200 mp3s at a time, then go for the iPod, but if not, then you may be wasting your money.

One might also say that an iPod is smaller, which, again, is true, but that alone can't possibly be worth your $290.
In response to Mike H
Mike H wrote:
It's a music lover's dream, being able to carry your entire collection around with you.

A CD can carry about 200 mp3s on it, and a discman costs aboput $290.00 less than an iPod. Unless you're going to listen to more than 200 mp3s at a time, then a discman can really make sense!
In response to Wizkidd0123
Wizkidd0123 wrote:
Unless you're going to listen to more than 200 mp3s at a time, then a discman can really make sense!

Damn right, Wiz.

It's complete overkill.

Right tools for the right job. If you're planning to go on a trip away from some place where you would be able to swap CDs, then the battery'll probably run out before you get through an eighth of the music.
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