Jan 30 2006, 4:59 pm
In response to CaptFalcon33035
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R U SERIUS
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True story. If you look behind one of the houses at one point in the movie, one of the (munchkins, I think) were hanging. I believe that the story was that they were hanging props. I believe the truth was that they realized they'd never live down being a munchkin.
I see it; it's more obvious with a larger screen, and my hippie dad watches it all the time on his 42" plasma. If you want more info(/me is NOT going to read the whole thread), Google it. Hiead | |
Maybe she's high? She could have been Dorothy's friend.
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Hiead wrote:
True story. If you look behind one of the houses at one point in the movie, one of the (munchkins, I think) were hanging. I believe that the story was that they were hanging props. I believe the truth was that they realized they'd never live down being a munchkin. It's a shame you didn't read the whole thread, because there's a link to the snopes.com page debunking the whole thing. When in doubt, always check snopes.com. Lummox JR | |
Oh, I see. Still, snopes dismisses it merely because it doesn't seem likely, not because they are positive against it. Just because there wasn't a munchkin scene at the time doesn't mean that they wouldn't ask one of them to go hang a prop from a tree(I know I've had to do several chores in the workplace that weren't actually a part of my job, just to keep things flowing).
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Video : http://www.gigdig.com/~oz/hanging_munchkin.zip Where to look :  Continue arguing. ~Kujila | |
Hiead wrote:
Oh, I see. Still, snopes dismisses it merely because it doesn't seem likely, not because they are positive against it. Just because there wasn't a munchkin scene at the time doesn't mean that they wouldn't ask one of them to go hang a prop from a tree(I know I've had to do several chores in the workplace that weren't actually a part of my job, just to keep things flowing). Did you not read the end section? How in the world could a zillion stage hands and other miscellaneous crew, and a massive post-production staff, miss it? Why would it not have been dealt with in editing at any point, let alone trigger a reshoot? Furthermore, one item snopes.com did not mention that pretty well nails the coffin shut on this myth: A death, particularly by suicide, would have been reported. There would be a record of it, and we would know the name of the alleged hanging figure. Lummox JR | |
Keep in mind this was filmed in 1939, a far cry from today's crime-and-justice system of today.
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Kujila wrote:
Keep in mind this was filmed in 1939, a far cry from today's crime-and-justice system of today. That's a terrifically weak excuse to cling to the myth. If anything newspapers covered a lot more detail then than now, and some researcher, somewhere, would have uncovered a name. Had one of the munchkins been a suicide victim, that would have been especially newsworthy. Heck, unless the person was a complete stranger to the set, they would also have been known to many of the cast and crew who would have had something to say about it. How conveniently people forget that a movie--even in 1939--is a huge enterprise employing many many people. It would be outright impossible to stifle the story of a suicide on set that had been caught on film. To believe that such a thing happened and was not known is completely idiotic, and to believe that it was covered up by hundreds of people for decades who had every reason to tell the story isn't a whole lot brighter. Lummox JR | |
I'm pretty sure that's just another munchkin dancing, it looks like there are many munchkins there, all dancing on a platform. It also looks like you can see his legs moving, and it looks like there is a motion where he obviously is standing on the ground.
As for it being an actual suicide, there is no way, regardless of if there was some sort of a hanging monchkin or not. | |
It's a female, wearing a dress. The other munchkins must be budging her around, thinking she's alive, just a little slow on swaying.
And Lummox, how could she definately be worthy of the media if she wasn't even worth the pay that all of the munchkins never really recieved; they were all underpayed. And the media must've been so caught up in reporting all the protests and such that the munchkins were carrying out. The munchkin wasn't found dead immediately, either. She was found after the movie was made; the munchkin land part was the last part filmed. They didn't even think that she was in the scene. Also, why release this information through the media where they'd have people looking for it, and they'd have to make a major recall? Aside from that, the dead munchkin was only found a few years before today, in the movie that is. 1939 was hectic. They can't spend all the time on a single munchkin when a war is breaking out in Europe. | |
Wow. Not really sure how to take this. Her movement is quite odd based upon the movement of the rest of the little people. At the same time though, wouldn't there be crew members EVERYWHERE for a film of this size? I'm just not seeing how she could have hung herself without someone knowing/seeing it...
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sure i'll continue - it's completely bogus- there is no-one in that video hanging by anything.. there are two people kinda sashing back-n-forth, sometimes crossing each others paths because one is standing in front of (and a little below) the other.
if you pay attention, you can just make out where the one to the back and left looks to be a girl holding her skirt a bit as she moves side to side, (you just about make out one of the legs as it does the side-step) and the one in front and to the right of her shows no rope and seems more preoccupied at acting out someone who is trying to get a better view of Dorothy from so far away. clearly bogus hanging there. | |
CaptFalcon33035 wrote:
It's a female, wearing a dress. and it looks like a young teen, not a munchkin - probably an extra to fill in some visual action. ...the dead munchkin was only found a few years before today, in the movie that is. 1939 was hectic. you can't tell me that the thousands, if not millions, of people who have watched this film (and a large chunk of that population *after* the DVD version came out), would not have noticed it before? that dozens of people who have analyzed the movie with either tech equipment or a simple slow-motion DVD player would not have said something years ago? heck, keeping something like that quiet would be damn near impossible. also, she's in the foreground of other people- those near and behind her could not have overlooked a swinging person (even an extra). she's not swinging, she's sorta dancing side-to-side. sorry dude, there is no hanging munchkin back there. | |
She had to have been dancing. If you look at it a few times you can see she moves fast one direction, short pause, moves fast the other direction. They were wearing weird hats with frilly things so what appears to be a rope might just be a hat extension.
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digitalmouse wrote:
heck, keeping something like that quiet would be damn near impossible. With all of the money that Wizard of Oz has been taking in, there probably is a way. Just a thought, though. =P | |