What makes a ripper

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Jul 7 2006, 8:31 am (Edited on Jul 7 2006, 6:19 pm)
Well...i think i have made a list of things that show that someones ripping stuff

Asking for Non-Library code
---Such as Zeta code

Asking how to do trivial things after "making" a game

Putting a game online that uses the same code/icons and it being noticed

People that say they are making a rip or have ripped code being used

Is that a complete list or did i say something wrong on it?
Jul 7 2006, 9:13 am
You forgot "x% rip free!"

Asking how to do trivial things doesn't necessarily mean the person is a ripper. They could just be dumb with Dream Maker. I'd have to ask someone how to create a Say verb. I think procs are jinxed. I'd have to open the Blue Book to figure out how to remap buttons.
(Hush, my joke project doesn't count)

I think "asking for zeta source" would already fall under "asking for non-library material", though.
Jul 7 2006, 10:32 am (Edited on Jul 7 2006, 10:50 am)
In response to Sarm
He also forgot: "attemtping to use a center tag in the forums!" =P

O-matic
Jul 7 2006, 2:08 pm
In response to Sarm
Sarm wrote:
You forgot "x% rip free!"

Asking how to do trivial things doesn't necessarily mean the person is a ripper. They could just be dumb with Dream Maker. I'd have to ask someone how to create a Say verb. I think procs are jinxed. I'd have to open the Blue Book to figure out how to remap buttons.
(Hush, my joke project doesn't count)

I think "asking for zeta source" would already fall under "asking for non-library material", though.

I mean thing like stuff that is in the very first chapter of the DM Guide (stuff like the old Hello World login)

mob/verb/Say(msg as text)
 world<<"[src] says, [msg]"


and O-Matic

Did not know that you couldn't use center tags in the forum...
Jul 7 2006, 3:59 pm
In response to Shlaklava
I don't see how not having basic knowledge of DM, would make you a ripper. A ripper, in my opinion, is someone who steals code or icons without the permission of the original creator.
Jul 7 2006, 6:18 pm
In response to Caramonmajere
Caramonmajere wrote:
I don't see how not having basic knowledge of DM, would make you a ripper. A ripper, in my opinion, is someone who steals code or icons without the permission of the original creator.

I will re-edit that...then tell me if it's right
Jul 8 2006, 12:00 am
In response to Shlaklava
Shlaklava wrote:
and O-Matic

Did not know that you couldn't use center tags in the forum...

I was just kidding though. >_>

O-matic
Jul 8 2006, 5:30 am
Shlaklava wrote:
Well...i think i have made a list of things that show that someones ripping stuff

Asking for Non-Library code
---Such as Zeta code

Asking how to do trivial things after "making" a game

Hmm. Is this for a Foxworthyesque comedy routine?

If you want to know how to program a technique like "banana no jutsu" but you can't spell "the", you might be a ripper.

Actually the one about asking how to do trivial things is my favorite.

Putting a game online that uses the same code/icons and it being noticed

Whether it's noticed or not, it's still a rip.

Lummox JR
Jul 8 2006, 5:32 am
In response to Caramonmajere
Caramonmajere wrote:
I don't see how not having basic knowledge of DM, would make you a ripper. A ripper, in my opinion, is someone who steals code or icons without the permission of the original creator.

Actually opinion doesn't enter into it. A ripper can be defined objectively, and that definition does not include an escape clause for permission. Even with permission, unless you're simply taking over the source after the author is finished developing it and they've handed it onto you, it's still a rip.

Lummox JR
Jul 8 2006, 6:04 am
In response to Lummox JR
Community members may find it particularly interesting to note that I halted development on one of my recent projects after I realised it was becoming a rip.
Jul 8 2006, 7:19 am
In response to Jtgibson
Thats sucks, Gibson. =( I can whole-heartedly say, I've never tried to make a rip! :D I've tried a fan-game, but failed at that, so I keep going with originality! Woot! :D


Some original games use tile-sets and such (RMK, DW, FF, etc..) Would those count as rips?

Jul 8 2006, 8:41 am
In response to Mechanios
As icon rips, yeah. There's really no way around it.
Jul 8 2006, 5:31 pm
In response to Jtgibson
May I ask what that was, JT?
Jul 9 2006, 1:05 pm
In response to Gumshoe
A tribute to Hedgerow Hall that started to become a little too similar for my comfort. ;-)
Jul 11 2006, 6:57 am
You forgot one.

Starting your post saying "Now I'm not a ripper, but -"
Jul 11 2006, 7:20 am
In response to Pakbaum
Pakbaum wrote:
You forgot one.

Starting your post saying "Now I'm not a ripper, but -"

then asking about ripped code right?

I have to say...i use to rip icons but no i have people iconing for me so i stopped ripping the icons
Jul 11 2006, 7:27 am
In response to Shlaklava
My first BYOND project was nothing but copied libs and demos, but I trashed it because I felt so bad for doing that. I've never copied and pasted since.
Jul 11 2006, 6:20 pm
In response to Pakbaum
Pakbaum wrote:
My first BYOND project was nothing but copied libs and demos, but I trashed it because I felt so bad for doing that. I've never copied and pasted since.

Nothin' wrong with doing that, as long as you know them in and out and how to work between em. Why reinvent the wheel? That's what those libs are there for!

You should see me program in php^_^ I don't have all the basics memorized, as I'm still new to it. I always have multiple windows open with different tuts and code from other sections, so I can copy from line to line those tough parts to remember, like sql statements :/

It's not that I dont know what it does or how it works, just cant remember how it's formatted:D