We're not looking for additional testers at this time, though you're welcome to play around with what you have there. Some people in the private test have shared the link, and that's okay as long as we're not getting bug reports on it (which can get nuts when it's outside the small group).

This is probably soon to be moot, though.

Lummox JR
In response to Lummox JR
Are we allowed to publicly discuss features that we find, or document procs with what we know about them. For others to use?
In response to Smoko
I suspect that full documentation will be released with the imminent public beta, so if you begin a documentation effort just keep in mind that it will probably become redundant as soon as the beta hits the greater BYOND developer community.
In response to PirateHead
i dont suppose you have any reason to think its imminent :O?
In response to Masterdan
I wouldn't necessarily say "imminent". The word Tom and Lummox JR have been using is "soon". =) Imminent is possibly too strong a word. (I could be wrong; I don't know exactly how close they believe they are.)
In response to Masterdan
It might be soon, if you go by the current state of the beta. But then again, it might be horribly buggy and we can't tell that.

It's best to say, it'll be here when it is here.
In response to Crispy
good, because ive spent in excess of 10 hours adding content that works for only 4.0 and all the players of my game are like whens fourpointo out dan?! I shouldnt have created hype for an update i cant bring them.
In response to Masterdan
Masterdan wrote:
good, because ive spent in excess of 10 hours adding content that works for only 4.0

Wow that sucks. Imagine what would happen if something doesn't work out during testing and something has to get scrapped or rewritten entirely, and your stuff doesn't work in the public 4.0? Wouldn't it suck to see your 10 hours of work amount to nothing? Because, you know, as a closed beta product, 4.0 is subject to change as much as it was when it was a concept on notebook paper. If a better idea comes along or one idea just doesn't work out at all, it's very easy for something to just get erased and scribbled over.

Hiead
In response to Masterdan
Masterdan wrote:
good, because ive spent in excess of 10 hours adding content that works for only 4.0 and all the players of my game are like whens fourpointo out dan?! I shouldnt have created hype for an update i cant bring them.

Well, we're at the stage with the beta where significant features are not much in flux. That is, most of the control parameters, etc. are not changing or being deleted, though a couple have been added. We're basically only fixing bugs right now.

While a public release is probably not imminent (as in this weekend), it's probably somewhere between imminent and soon.

Lummox JR
In response to Jtgibson
Jtgibson wrote:
Well, as Tiberath said, chances are that the bugs are already known. We'd prefer to avoid duplication, so up until the release you might want to just jot those down on virtual paper somewhere until the public release comes; if they still exist in the public release, feel free to report them, but until then no one is really equipped to handle the reports. Besides all that, many people don't report their BYOND versions very well -- the powers that be might get 3.5++ bug reports and 4.0 bug reports from people who don't actually say what version they're using. =P

More than that, when it comes to 4.0 we've been doing a lot of minor builds, which means the major version is still 363, but the minor version is currently at 932. Right now I'm awaiting a release of 933 so we can get some of our bug reports retested to see if they've vanished. So it's been important in this process to report the whole BYOND version, which is a foreign concept to the average user.

Lummox JR
In response to Lummox JR
your the man lummox.
In response to Masterdan
I do like your screenshots. :D
In response to Jtgibson
Jtgibson wrote:
But only the Newfies and Torontonians sound like that, eh?

i'm half-newfie, and i resemble that remark!
In response to Smoko
Smoko wrote:
Upinflames wrote:
damn it how did u get those files and is there a 4.0 release date yet. I heard from rumor its sometime in june

Jtgibson said they didn't want the link spread, and you should be able to find them yourself. It's actually really simple.

As for a release date, there really isn't one yet.

I've used the simplest way I could think of, and I still haven't found it.


It was even mentioned in this topic.
In response to RedlineM203
MEEE ME Take ME Plz
In response to RedlineM203
Then you'll have to go without then.
In response to Smoko
Smoko wrote:
Then you'll have to go without then.

If its so easy, why don't people explain it?
In response to Z-Ken
as pointed out by Lummox in [link] testing is not opened to the public just yet. keep an eye out for announcements of the public beta!

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