Toshiba Concedes Defeat in the DVD Battle, Blu-ray is crowned the victor.
Well it finely over, We have a single next gen format now, next step for the Blu-ray Disc Associationton is to take on DVD and web based movie downloads. no small task.
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 Feb 19 2008, 3:19 pm
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Feb 19 2008, 4:01 pm
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Mecha Destroyer JD
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I still don't quite see the point of Blu-ray yet..What extra features does it even have besides more space? People barely even fill up normal DVds..
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Heh I can't disagree with that. Maybe it's a sign of Sony finally coming back strong? I feel sorry for HD-DVD adopters though: as soon as Gamestop heard the news, they ended HD-DVD and 360 HD-DVD Drive(?) trade-ins.
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Well from my understanding the biggest difference is the data-rate of the disk it self, and the storage on the said disk. This also allows higher bit-rate video which equals a better picture.
blu-ray: 2X 72 Mbit/s 9 MB/s (common player) 6X 216 Mbit/s 27 MB/s 12X (Theoretical) 432 Mbit/s 54 MB/s DVD: 2X 21.09 Mbit/s 2.64 MB/s (common player) 6X 63.30 Mbit/s 7.91 MB/s 16X 168.75 Mbit/s 21.09 MB/s more information: http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#bluray_speed | |
See the funny thing is blu-ray does not equal sony, they just used it in the PS3, and they own logo.
they own some of the IP. these guys have a hand in it too. Matsushita, Pioneer, Philips, Thomson, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp, and Samsung. all are the founders. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Association | |
Yeah I read about that earlier today; the blu-ray component was pretty much the main selling point of the PS3(and justification of its price; forget the fact that it's a game console 0_0) though and I mentioned the 360 so I thought I'd inquire about a potentially good looking year for Sony.
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Don't speak for everyone, just because a company reconiszes a format does not mean it "wins".
I refuse to accept the Blu-ray format. It isn't next gen. It wasn't any more next gen then the HD-DVDs where. When you take it a step further, like Holo Disks or something, that is next gen. Right now, Blu-Ray is about as next gen to me as Beta Tapes were. | |
I'm not speaking for myself. It's not a "company" recognizing a format, it's the industry that is. it does not matter what I think as i still have an SD TV, but those who desire HD video now have a Standard.
speaking of beta tapes, they were very much next gen at there time just as VCR was. then as now one format won and became the standard, and that was VCR. Then came the DVD which was unchallenged so it became the standard, now for HD it's blu-ray plane and simple. | |
Yeah, it was more younger brother/cousin than actually next-gen :P
And yeah, I see no point to getting Blu-ray | |
Xzar wrote:
the next step is to take on web based movie downloads. No friggin way, who wants to watch movies on Blu-Ray and have a stack of disks lying around when they could store them on their ever-larger hard drives or stream them in high-def over the internet? Analog disks are on their way out, period. Movie rental places may still have them for awhile, but even those will eventually go out of business as the internet becomes the distribution mechanism of choice. The internet is a hyper-efficient way for anything that can be condensed down into bits to be distributed! | |
Jamesburrow wrote:
And yeah, I see no point to getting Blu-ray You mean, besides amazing picture quality (Compared to DVDs), more storage space and extra features? Gee, me neither :) And yes, Blu-Ray is the next-gen standard, whether you want to play with the words used or find it useful. | |
Personally I don't see the point in Blue ray or HDDVD, considering DVD just recently took almost complete control over VHS a few years ago. Unlike the jump to VHS to DVD, there isn't that huge of a difference in quality between DVD and the 'next gen discs.' And yes I've seen firsthand the difference. It's there, but not that huge of a difference.
Heck by the time HDTVs become standard, and people actually have a need for the these sort of HD discs, holodisc will be ready, and a holodisc is a far greater improvement over storage than Blu-Ray and HDDVD. So yes, why not wait a few years for Holodisc to come out? It's not like it's going to end the world if you have to use DVDs (which happen to look fine on a HDTV as well). | |
Crashed wrote:
Too bad 2008 is also predicted to be the slowest year on the internet, bandwidth wise. Only in the USA -- everywhere else in the world, where competition and technology are allowed to flourish, 2008 is bringing faster speeds, more bandwidth, and better prices than have ever been seen. Just sit back and watch the telecoms' lobbying of the US gov't keep America's communications industry in the dark while the rest of the world surges ahead! | |
Mecha Destroyer JD wrote:
I still don't quite see the point of Blu-ray yet..What extra features does it even have besides more space? People barely even fill up normal DVds.. Blu-Ray..?  | |
I think the most likely case is that people will start buying Blu-Ray drives without even thinking about it. They will go to replace their $100 DVD player that is now dieing, and there will be a Blu-Ray drive for $100 that also plays DVD. Now they know when buy their next movie disc, they can play it, nomatter the quality. But then, why buy DVD, if the price is the same(and it will be... eventually), why not get the Blu-Ray disc?
It will probably take a few years to actually transition, but that doesn't matter, because by the time it does, video over the Internet will have taken over the market. | |
Who pays $100 for a DVD player? You can get DVD players that play fantastic for well under $100 at Walmart, K-Mart and Shopko.
I refuse to believe, that there is going to be a point (any time soon), when someone's DVD player is going to break down, and they go out and buy a Blu-Ray DVD player, either on accident, or because the price is so close to a standard DVD player. The same goes for the Blu-Ray movies. Right now, it is a slight change in how good the movie looks, aside from that fact, all it does, is give deirectors more room to put useless crap I never watched to begin with. So for the extra $5 or $10 a Blu-Ray movie costs, I get a higher defination movie that I wouldn't really notice anyways, and a lot more crap I never watch, fantastic! Then you have to take another thing into consideration. A Blu-Ray DVD might look better (slightly) then a standard DVD, but it is still going to look like crap on a standard TV, which I am willing to bet, more Amercians are still using then people are willing to admit. I myself have a 42in standard TV, that was given to me, otherwise, all I could ever afford myself would be a crummy 19in. If you are going to go out and waste a bunch of money on a Blu-Ray DVD player, well you damn better well have a HD TV set so you can actually see any noticable differances. Otherwise, you'd be better off going back to DivX. (OK.. I give, that last part was a bit of a exergeration!) | |
People were trampling each other over the first $100 DVD player, and I have no doubt that would sound reasonable to the average consumer for "the latest and greatest", especially when some salesman at Best Buy starts pushing the sale.
As for that "extra crap", some of us really love that stuff. I watch it for all the movies we love. On top of all that, Blu-Ray discs will only cost extra for a little while. DVD had a higher price than Tape when it was still new, that changed pretty quickly. Give it two years and it will be hard to find a plain DVD player. Especially when it takes no extra effort on the drive's creator to make it support both. Once Blu-Ray drives get into the sub-$100 range, there will be no such thing as a DVD-Only player on the shelfs. | |