I know most of you already know about this and i have known this for a long time but i fell for it anyways -_-
Anyways
If anyone says
Hey is this really you :S!?http://album.geocities/email.php? = " Your email address"
DONT CLICK IT it will download a virus that will make you send it to ppl and it gives the person who made this C++ file your password thru C++ Export
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 Apr 13 2008, 1:21 pm
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Apr 13 2008, 2:13 pm
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Trane5
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by pass word what do you mean msn password?
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Choka wrote:
[blah] send it to ppl and it gives the person who made this C++ file your password thru C++ Export Simply change your password then. | |
Choka wrote:
I know most of you already know about this and i have known this for a long time but i fell for it anyways -_- I'd like to point out, that's not the only message you're given. If you receive a message with someone trying to send you something the moment you or they login, don't accept/download. It's like, internet rule 1. | |
Yeah, I had to block the MSN of a few good friends because their MSN kept getting hacked and spamming me with stuff like that <_<
It's like, log in, spam, log out, instantly. | |
I was attacked by something like that recently. Fortunately, when I clicked the link it showed it as a PIF download. What did I do? I just canceled the download. :P
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You people shouldn't call this 'hacking' that's not what it is at all. It's a simple program that grabs the window handler of message windows and puts text into it. It never actually gets your password and it never actually sends anything off, hell, the guy even included instructions for disabling the thing WITH THE FILE. This is a program anyone with a basic understanding of AutoIT or some similar application could make very VERY easily.
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Technically, hack means "To use one's skill in computer programming to gain illegal or unauthorized access to a file or network"
So the term hacked works just fine in this scenario :P Although a relatively simple "hack" it is a hack all the same. Gaining access to passwords/etc is called "cracking" a lot of the time, to differentiate between the two ;) | |
Actually a 'hack' always refers to a clever solution to a problem or using equipment in a way it wasn't originally intended to be used. This is more like phishing.
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Jamesburrow wrote:
Technically, Go back to France. Nobody here cares about "technically." All that matters is how a word is actually used. | |
Phishing is tricking someone to give you information such as passwords, bank account numbers, or etc by pretending to be someone you are not.
Doesn't quite fit in this scenario. | |
Can't go back somewhere I've never been dude. And the only European country I would consider going to would be back to Ireland.
Anyways though, I could care less about how the word is normally used. Nadrew said we were using the word improperly, I contested that in that the word was actually being used quite properly for the given situation. | |
Except that you're totally wrong.
The best accounts I've heard say that MIT computer programmers (who popularized the term) took it from "phone hackers", who in turn took it from 19th century furniture makers who would hack furniture apart, build new or improved furniture from the parts, and refinish it in order to make a profit. There are two versions of the term "hacker" - one that fits a media narrative of those who use arcane knowledge about technology to circumvent security (real hackers call those guys security crackers), and the term used by computer-savvy folks to describe or refer to others who are particularly deft at programming computers. Many of those who are called hackers in the traditional sense - that is, they hack up programs and use their pieces to build better or different programs - insist that their definition of the term is correct. The media usually responds with "well, this is the term that we use, and it's entered into pop culture, so there." So I offer the opinion that "technically", a hacker is somebody who uses their knowledge about technology to make better technology, and "popularly", a hacker is somebody who uses their knowledge about technology to circumvent security measures. | |
PirateHead wrote:
and "popularly", a hacker is somebody who uses their knowledge about technology to circumvent security measures. In which case, hacker still applies to this scenario. And it is one of the dictionary definition of the word, thus "technically" it does apply as well. Either way, I'll admit this scenario is more of a virus than a hacker, but hell, it can easily fit either definition :P | |
Jamesburrow wrote:
Phishing is tricking someone to give you information such as passwords, bank account numbers, or etc by pretending to be someone you are not. The file sent or link provided to download said virus is sent to you by people on your MSN list, sometimes people you trust enough to blindly click any link or accept any file they send you. To be honest, I constitute that as impersonating the person (because they aren't willingly sending said virus) and thus, I'm more inclined to call it phishing. | |
Can you guys stop arguing about the definition of "hacking?" This entire conversation is a hijacking of the thread just to have an off-topic and detracting debate.
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I don't know, it's kinda funny. <,< Sometimes people argue quite unnecessarily. Not to say I'm necessarily an exception, but it's funny either way.
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Polatrite wrote:
Can you guys stop arguing about the definition of "hacking?" This entire conversation is a hijacking of the thread just to have an off-topic and detracting debate. It can be a very valid and necessary argument. If people just start throwing around terms that they think mean one thing while it may mean another thing to some other person then there will be a major problem. Arguments like this produce clarity of language; very useful in the computer world with all of it's terms and "lingo". George Gough | |
Jamesburrow wrote:
Technically, hack means "To use one's skill in computer programming to gain illegal or unauthorized access to a file or network" If you're aware of the term "cracking", then you're aware that the term applies to both of those definitions, and "hacking" to neither. You can't say one kind of cracking is cracking, and another isn't, especially because the one definition isn't really significantly different from the other. Those saying that "hacking" is the wrong word are entirely right, although Joe User doesn't know the difference. If Joe User wants to go on raving about "hackers", it's not worth my energy to correct him. Lummox JR | |
