Feature:
A hide IP Feature or A fake IP Feature, so that the IP that appears when you connect to a game on byond or in Options and Messages isn't the real one, or doesn't show, so they don't get constant problems.
Reason:
Mostly because it's caused a lot of trouble to some people.
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 Aug 21 2009, 4:48 pm (Edited on Aug 21 2009, 5:21 pm)
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Aug 21 2009, 5:01 pm
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Falacy
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That reason is complete fail. Either post more details about these "problems" or come up with a new reason. If anything, removing IPs would cause a lot more problems. Plus if you want to hide your IP so that you can cheat/spam/abuse/etc (since that's most likely the reason for this request) I'm sure there are already programs out there that will mask your IP for you, of course that won't prevent you from being banned on a competent system, so you probably shouldn't bother with it.
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No, I meant as in you can't see the actual IP or something, my reason was because, my friend was hosting a game and someone banned a player, and now that player is spamming his internet connection and constantly crashing him, by just looking at his ip.
And you do realize I meant for people connecting to the server so they can't see the host's IP? | |
Unlikely, but if that's actually happening then just report the spammer to their ISP and they'll be permanently disconnected.
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Your IP address is recorded and displayed everywhere you go on the internet. It doesn't matter what you're doing or where you're going, chances are, somewhere, your IP is being recorded or is visible to someone at the time.
I find it completely unreasonable to request such a thing be taken away from the developer. One can argue that we already have client.computer_id to manage bans and whatnot. But there are lots of legacy BYOND games out there that came about prior to this feature and still rely on IP based bans in game. If someone is indeed spamming your friends IP address with meaningless data. Your friend should contact his ISP ASAP so they can resolve the matter. | |
Falacy, already finished this conversation, and my friend already did that, they did nothing. So I'll just try to figure out the player's ISP.
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Megelic wrote:
Falacy, already finished this conversation, and my friend already did that, they did nothing. So I'll just try to figure out the player's ISP. To find out their ISP you will need to know their IP. If you don't have that, you will need to contact the BYOND staff and ask for their assistance in the matter. From there you have two options: 1: If you already have the IP, open up command prompt, and type in the following command: ping -a IP.Ad.dr.ess It should return you with a message like this: 'Pinging cpe-##-##-##-##.stny.res.rr.com' From there, you should be able to determine what their ISP is. Usually the ISP will be listed in that address there. In this example, the last part before the .com is the ISP. (Roadrunner) From there you contact them, inform them that someone with X IP address has been spamming you, and they needa quit dat. | |
Falacy wrote:
http://www.ip-adress.com/whois Same thing. Cept that will just directly tell you the name of the ISP and where they are located. -.-' The problem however is some of them provide incorrect or outdated information. Personally, I use www.whatismyip.com. But yea, I'd say the most accurate option is pinging yourself. | |
Megelic wrote:
No, I meant as in you can't see the actual IP or something, my reason was because, my friend was hosting a game and someone banned a player, and now that player is spamming his internet connection and constantly crashing him, by just looking at his ip. I know you consider the issue resolved, but I feel something should be clarified for any other users who might find this topic in the future via a forum search. When you connect to a host's machine, your computer has to know their IP address for the connection to be possible. You can use simple tools available in your operating system to tell which machines you are connected to. In BYOND we actually limit the ability to see a host's IP until pretty much the point where you're connecting to the world, but once you're connected, the info is available. The host can see your IP, and you can see the host's IP. This is a fact of our first-generation Internet and not likely to change any time soon. But the lack of anonymity works both ways. Not only can you probably find out the spammer's IP and report their DoS attack to their ISP, but you can report it to your own ISP as well. You also have the option, which may be quite effective depending on the sophistication of the attack (usually not very high), of using a simple firewall to block the offending IP address from reaching your game at all. Lummox JR | |
Megelic wrote:
I'd like to point out it was DDos. A DDoS attack should most definitely be provided to your ISP and theirs, especially if you have the IP address of the user who initiated it since that will be invaluable in tying the attacker to the crime. Being able to provide that information (the source of the attack) is almost certain to lead to serious action against them, likely even legal action. DDoS attacks are so destructive, and by nature involve exploiting compromised computers, that initiating them breaks a fair number of laws. Lummox JR | |