In the Discord, there's a lot of hate for pretty much anything and everything on the right - especially the alt-right which everyone has labeled "Nazis". Now, I had never really investigated the alt-right but decided to talk to a woman within the alt-right movement who's actually close to Richard Spencer. I wanted to get to the bottom of why they do what they do, so I did what any sensible person would do and just asked her.

Their gripes with non-whites

She explained that it's not entirely about a gripe with non-whites, but rather a desire to look out for her own race. She says that putting your own race before other races is perfectly natural and every race does it EXCEPT for whites. People can shout "black pride", and no one cares. People can shout "Hispanic pride", no one cares. If you shout "White Pride", you get fired from your job and she finds that ridiculous. She grew up in a poor predominantly black neighborhood and says that her main gripe with blacks is that she doesn't want to have to be responsible for them. No matter how many benefits whites give to blacks, the crime and poverty rates still increase and so, to put it bluntly, she'd just rather end it altogether and let the criminal, non self-sufficient blacks helplessly fend for themselves since the their situation isn't improving anyway. She said she has no problem with blacks who are intelligent, reasonable people - her issue is that the majority of us aren't and she'd rather not have anything to do with that majority in any way, shape or form.

They hate other whites just as much if not more than non-whites

Interestingly, she says that other white people pose a threat to her movement more-so than non-whites do. She says BLM was created by a white man who hates himself, and that a lot of the riots are started and instigated by whites, so even though blacks are the ones carrying out a lot of nonsense during BLM riots, she primarily blames the whites for organizing those riots to begin with.

They want an ethnostate

This was probably the meatiest part of the conversation and probably the foundation of the movement. What white nationalists want is an ethnostate, or a homeland for whites. She says every race has one: Koreans have Korea, Chinese have China, Mexicans have Mexico, but she feels whites are the only ones who have diversity forced on them. She says that her homeland, which should be Europe, is on the fast track to having its native whites outnumbered by minorities and says that's entirely unacceptable. She says if, for example, Chinese were on the verge of being replaced by Brazilians, there would be an uproar, and no one would call the Chinese racist for wanting to preserve the Chinese natives in China.

She says that most liberal whites she meets care more about pandas going extinct than their own race going extinct and thinks that's absurd. She feels that, in a way, her race is being exterminated and "forced" to just deal with the fact that eventually, there won't be a such thing as a "white person" anymore. Meanwhile, other races, the Japanese for instance, can preserve and promote their race as much as they want to and no one bats an eye and calls them racist or criticizes how they deal with immigrants. She told me to watch "Beige Power" which is a video she's not too particularly fond of:



She believes its perfectly within her rights and every other white nationalist's rights to put their race first and have a homeland without being labelled as "evil" for doing the exact same thing virtually every other race on the planet does. She said they also breed for IQ purposes and says that if a white says they don't want to breed with blacks because they, on average, have lower IQs than whites, that shouldn't be construed as racism or being immoral and she admits that Jews and Asians have, on average, higher IQs than whites, and she wouldn't blame Jews and Asians for not wanting to breed with a white person. They don't want there to be "only beige people" by 2050 or 3000. They want blacks to still be blacks, Koreans to still be Koreans, and whites to still be whites, all with our own homelands. Being diverse and mix-breeding should be an option, not a mandate, especially since that mandate only seems to apply to people with white skin.

There are non-white alt-righters too

She says there are non-whites within the alt-right who sympathize with their movement and the idea of every race having the right to preserve its race and homeland. She pointed out that a lot of the people from pol who trolled the HWNDU stream are non-white and she appreciates their support, but at the end of the day, it's still a white movement and the end goal is for each race to eventually go their own way and preserve themselves unless they CHOOSE to opt for being diverse, which is also completely within their right to do.

What they mean when they talk about other races being exterminated

On her Twitter account, she was making remarks like "Those millions of starving Africans shouldn't exist" and I asked her what she meant by that and if she was advocating violence. She says that because of the UN, there are millions of Africans suffering in horrible living conditions and that we should've just let nature take its course and let them die off. By constantly giving them aid without the situation actually improving, all they're doing is bringing more and more people in the world only to have them starve or die of disease - suggesting that they should all just die sounds evil at first, but she says the point she's getting at is bringing lives into the world under those circumstances is even more evil because it just keeps making more and more people suffer. She says a lot of black nationalists she has spoken to agree with this sentiment as well - that we need to stop depending on other races and become self-sufficient in our own homeland. A black state run by blacks for blacks. This would eliminate racism and prevent blacks from blaming whites for all their problems. She says she does not advocate for violence or murder, but simply relocation, and that if any race can't pull themselves up on their own ( or even when other races are giving them a helping hand ), allow nature to take its course.

So, TL;DR: The alt-right wants to preserve their own race and have a homeland like every other race already does, they don't necessarily hate anyone on the basis of race but rather your stance on this very issue ( i.e. there are non-whites that they like and whites that they hate ), and when they talk about other races not existing, they are more-so referring to just allowing a race to die off if they can't support themselves and not just walking in with guns blazing killing all the blacks, Mexicans, etc. which is what most people seem to believe they are referring to.

As a black person, I actually don't care about preserving my race ( I don't really feel a connection or allegiance to any race really ) but at the same time I don't find it offensive if someone else wants to preserve theirs. I don't believe this alt-right woman was an evil person for anything she said to me. My verdict is let them have their Europe ethnostate, and yes, a black ethnostate would probably be nice as well so we can finally shut up about how the "white man be holdin' us back".